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Homebrew HDD adapter for Gamecube Tutorial

Post by emu_kidid » Mon Sep 13, 2010 1:34 am

So I've finally got around to uploading everything that was given to me on how to build this HDD adapter for the Gamecube. The guide is written in the effort that you don't actually need to go out and buy anything to make this (that is, if you have some old ps2 modchips lying around).

I'd prefer that a proper PCB be created for this device, but I am not capable of such a thing, if someone is, that'd be great, then I could update the guide to be more consistent/easier to build (perhaps even just plug and play! like the Viper GC Extreme USB adapter was). It is built to go in the Serial Port underneath the Gamecube, yet it is wired up to the memory card slot B, I would prefer it was otherwise, but for now, this is how it is.

The build instructions are located here
Building the JTAG device can be seen here
Programming the device can be seen here

Note: This HDD adapter will not act as a DVD replacement, and requires a method to boot homebrew on your Gamecube to work.

Any questions/comments/queries, please feel free to post them here and I can forward them via email to the author. It would be awesome if this device could be polished into a nice single pcb that could be sold as it could be quite good for GC homebrew :)

If anyone does build this adapter, please let me know so I can grab a sample to add in support to the latest sd-boot.

Edit: Attached the unofficial sd-boot that the author of the device has created (it's based off of 0.3).
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Re: Homebrew HDD adapter for Gamecube Tutorial

Post by r3ap3r » Mon Sep 13, 2010 6:23 am

I have a couple of Modbo 750 v1.93 ( http://www.beebuyer.com/product/458064- ... -750-V1-93 ) Laying around, will they work? i have other ps2 modchips i just cant find them atm. Do you have a complete list of the ones that will work?
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Post by doktor_krotch » Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:04 am

Do you know which components are used specifically? I might be able to have a go at making a pcb for it, and my old high school has the gear to fabricate pcbs. Or rather they had last time I checked, they were downsizing their electronics program, the bastards. I would rather not have to use surface mount components though.

Actually, what do you think of a pcb that you could just solder your PS2 modchip onto and then solder into your gamecube? I think that I could do that, but I don't have any PS2 modchips right now.
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Re: Homebrew HDD adapter for Gamecube Tutorial

Post by r3ap3r » Mon Sep 13, 2010 12:27 pm

I have an idea i have found a place where i can purchase the XILINX xc95144x1 chip used in the PS2 Modchips and i can get PCB's make up for $8, not including components. I think i could produce theres for about $30 a pop minus the bottom Gamecube Port cover. I can also get them pre assembled with the XLINX chip already installed for a little extra. What do you think emu_kidid?
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Post by gtmtnbiker » Mon Sep 13, 2010 4:31 pm

@emu_kidid, thanks for publishing the instructions. I would love to try this out sometime this fall after I finish some of my home improvement projects.

Who is the author that developed this? What is his/her handle?
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Re: Homebrew HDD adapter for Gamecube Tutorial

Post by gtmtnbiker » Mon Sep 13, 2010 4:41 pm

In the build your own JTAG cable page, there's a link for the design information on the site warmcat.com. The link is invalid.

Does anyone have any thoughts on making a USB JTAG cable? It seems that it would be possible but I haven't read up enough to verify this.
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Post by tglaria » Mon Sep 13, 2010 7:30 pm

As far as I can tell, any chip using a Xilinx should work (I'm not thinking of modchips), the advantage of using a modchip is that they're cheap and already have the in/out pins.

Too bad I can't find any of those around here (only Modbo 4, which I'm guessing won't work)
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Re: Homebrew HDD adapter for Gamecube Tutorial

Post by deku_scrub » Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:42 pm

This is amazing!!!

I'm thinking in buying an old dol 001 just to try this :D
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Re: Homebrew HDD adapter for Gamecube Tutorial

Post by darkzero » Tue Sep 14, 2010 4:33 pm

Nice to see this out finally, I was little afraid because of the polemic at the beginning.

emu_kidid, are you think any of this will do the job:

http://www.altera.com/technology/integr ... eprom.html

And of course like always, Thanks a lot for your hard work.
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Re: Homebrew HDD adapter for Gamecube Tutorial

Post by tglaria » Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:22 pm

As far as I know Altera uses a diferent programmer than Xilinx.
Although as long as it's verylog/vhdl it should work...
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Re: Homebrew HDD adapter for Gamecube Tutorial

Post by darkzero » Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:42 pm

I did a quick goggling for the Magic-S without luck, just I got few DuoQ around, Its not like I got a lot of knowledge about ICs but my amateur soldering skills are pretty decent this time around (specially after D2key and DMS4 pro), but with just the right IC info and the PCB stuff :)
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Post by Hucklebuck » Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:59 am

I found " Bluechip v10 modchip ps2" in Eurasia Online shop. Click the modchip pic and it will show you it is XILINX. Here is a link...

http://www.eurasia.nu/shop/product_info ... cts_id=259
http://www.eurasia.nu/shop/images/bluechip_v10_big.jpg

Hope I didn't violate any rules by posting links. If I did I am sorry.
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Post by emu_kidid » Wed Sep 15, 2010 2:13 am

Yeah, it has to be that exact xilinx chip I'm pretty sure. It's quite an expensive cpld to use for such a simple device though. if it's XC95144, it should be ok.
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Post by gtmtnbiker » Wed Sep 15, 2010 4:33 am

Hucklebuck wrote:I found " Bluechip v10 modchip ps2" in Eurasia Online shop. Click the modchip pic and it will show you it is XILINX. Here is a link...

http://www.eurasia.nu/shop/product_info ... cts_id=259
http://www.eurasia.nu/shop/images/bluechip_v10_big.jpg

Hope I didn't violate any rules by posting links. If I did I am sorry.
Yeah, I saw that earlier but the problem is that it doesn't have the parallel flash EEPROM that the MAGIC-S chip has.
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Post by gtmtnbiker » Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:35 am

I'm reading through the instructions and there are some confusing points for me.

1. I understand that the guide is for a Xilinx XC95144 CPLD which is used by some older PS2 mod chips.
2. What I don't understand is why we have different gc_ide.ucf for the different mod chips. If they're
all using the same CPLD, they should be using the same pins, right? But I guess the issue is that they all
have a bunch of pads that are connected to various pins of the CPLD. In other words, they don't use the
same pins of the CPLD.

As a contrived example (not real data), let's say that we want to hook up exi_clk. For magic S, this is Pin 86 of the CPLD which is hooked up to some pad on the board (let's say that it's N). For the Bluechip, this is pin 27 which might be hooked up to pad Q (the pad assignments are made up). So you really need to look at the modchip and see which pads go to which pins on the CPLD.


3. There are some instructions for making a JTAG cable but I don't see anything for connecting it to the CPLD. I guess you need to identify the pins on the CPLD that need to be connected to the cable and solder them together. Then you program it and then desolder the connection.

In the tutorial, I see the same picture of the JTAG cable used 3 times. I wonder if there are two other pictures missing?
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Post by gtmtnbiker » Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:49 am

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Reading some more about programming CPLD and JTAG cables, etc, I can see why emu_kidid was looking into making a PCB board. It seems it would be a lot easier to create your own PCB board that has a CPLD socket (so you can easily remove the Xilinx for programming).

Another option might be to use alligator clips to attach the jtag cable to the CPLD. That's assuming the pins for programming the CPLD are connected to pads on the board which I doubt.
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Post by emu_kidid » Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:55 am

gtmtnbiker wrote:I'm reading through the instructions and there are some confusing points for me.

1. I understand that the guide is for a Xilinx XC95144 CPLD which is used by some older PS2 mod chips.
Correct.
gtmtnbiker wrote: 2. What I don't understand is why we have different gc_ide.ucf for the different mod chips. If they're
all using the same CPLD, they should be using the same pins, right? But I guess the issue is that they all
have a bunch of pads that are connected to various pins of the CPLD. In other words, they don't use the
same pins of the CPLD.

As a contrived example (not real data), let's say that we want to hook up exi_clk. For magic S, this is Pin 86 of the CPLD which is hooked up to some pad on the board (let's say that it's N). For the Bluechip, this is pin 27 which might be hooked up to pad Q (the pad assignments are made up). So you really need to look at the modchip and see which pads go to which pins on the CPLD.
Correct.
gtmtnbiker wrote: 3. There are some instructions for making a JTAG cable but I don't see anything for connecting it to the CPLD. I guess you need to identify the pins on the CPLD that need to be connected to the cable and solder them together. Then you program it and then desolder the connection.

In the tutorial, I see the same picture of the JTAG cable used 3 times. I wonder if there are two other pictures missing?
This is how it was given to me, but the cable should be simple to build.
gtmtnbiker wrote: Reading some more about programming CPLD and JTAG cables, etc, I can see why emu_kidid was looking into making a PCB board. It seems it would be a lot easier to create your own PCB board that has a CPLD socket (so you can easily remove the Xilinx for programming).
Best option would be to produce a PCB with JTAG pins going to the CPLD via some traces on the board so we can connect a cable to update the software. Taking the CPLD out generally isn't a good idea.
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Post by emu_kidid » Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:02 am

The author has told me that this chip can be used but it will require some modifications on the PCB.

Also, he's working on getting a pcb design out so that you won't have to stuff around too much with all these chips.

More to come :)
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Post by gtmtnbiker » Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:59 pm

emu_kidid wrote:The author has told me that this chip can be used but it will require some modifications on the PCB.

Also, he's working on getting a pcb design out so that you won't have to stuff around too much with all these chips.

More to come :)
I definitely appreciate his and your efforts to the GC scene. It's nice to see the output of talented contributors. I plan to work on this in the winter. I have to finish some home improvement projects first.
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Post by darkzero » Thu Sep 16, 2010 11:13 pm

emu_kidid wrote:The author has told me that this chip can be used but it will require some modifications on the PCB.

Also, he's working on getting a pcb design out so that you won't have to stuff around too much with all these chips.

More to come :)
Indeed so much appreciated all your efforts, I'll definely try to build this :twisted:

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Post by gtmtnbiker » Sat Sep 18, 2010 12:14 pm

emu_kidid wrote:
gtmtnbiker wrote: Reading some more about programming CPLD and JTAG cables, etc, I can see why emu_kidid was looking into making a PCB board. It seems it would be a lot easier to create your own PCB board that has a CPLD socket (so you can easily remove the Xilinx for programming).
Best option would be to produce a PCB with JTAG pins going to the CPLD via some traces on the board so we can connect a cable to update the software. Taking the CPLD out generally isn't a good idea.
If and when someone decides to design a PCB board, one suggestion that I have is to make sure that the board is the right thickness. One problem that I have with my Viper GC Extreme USB board is that it's loose in the socket. In order to use it, I have to wedge it slightly while doing any transfer or flashing the memory. Sucks to do this.
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Post by emu_kidid » Sat Sep 18, 2010 2:24 pm

My viper gc extreme usb adapter is perfect thickness, perhaps it's the Serial Slot which has had the pins bent in too far?
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Post by gtmtnbiker » Sun Sep 19, 2010 3:25 pm

I'll have to check the pins on the slot sometimes. Thanks for the suggestion.
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Post by emu_kidid » Wed Sep 29, 2010 12:52 am

Just letting everyone know that I'm looking into producing 100 of these (ready to go - plug and play basically) but it will take a couple of weeks as I'm doing some research on how to get costs down whilst I'm also going to build 2 for myself to test with (based on the original guide).
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Post by gtmtnbiker » Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:44 am

Cool that you're doing this. I'll definitely will get one from you.
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