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Compatible HDD's

Post by emu_kidid » Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:40 am

Tested so far (based on tests done by me):

Brand: Seagate
Capacity: 500GB
Speed: 5400rpm
Type: 2.5" SATA HDD
Comments: Slow

Brand: Western Digital
Capacity: 320GB
Speed: 7200rpm
Type: 3.5" IDE HDD
Comments: Fast

Brand: Seagate
Capacity: 40GB
Speed: 7200rpm
Type: 3.5" IDE HDD
Comments: Fast

Brand: Seagate
Capacity: 10.2GB
Speed: 7200rpm
Type: 3.5" IDE HDD
Comments: Fast

Brand: Seagate
Capacity: 60GB
Speed: 5400rpm
Type: 2.5" SATA HDD
Comments: Slow


A general note about 2.5" and SATA->IDE adapters is that 2.5" will most likely be 5400RPM which will be slower, and if you couple that with the SATA to IDE adapter possibly having some overhead, these can make for slow HDD's. I recommend 3.5" 7200RPM IDE HDD's or SATA if you can't find IDE anymore.
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Re: Compatible HDD's

Post by Paul.str » Fri Jan 07, 2011 4:13 am

So, is there a significant difference in loading times between the "Slow" HDDs and the "Fast" HDD?
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Post by emu_kidid » Fri Jan 07, 2011 4:24 am

yes, but a 7200 through a decent adapter is not noticeable I've been told.
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Post by liquitt » Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:54 am

did anybody try a >500GB SATA HDD yet?
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Re: Compatible HDD's

Post by tglaria » Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:46 pm

How about IDE 5400rpm HDDs?
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Post by liquitt » Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:10 pm

i bet they're slow, too....should be a bit faster than 5.4k RPM SATA though, since it's not going through an adapter...
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Post by emu_kidid » Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:28 pm

Yeah, I can confirm the slow down is my cheap SATA->IDE adapter, 5400rpm IDE is pretty decent.
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Post by tglaria » Sat Jan 08, 2011 1:22 pm

Ok, great.

I was wondering how could only the discs' RPMs be the cause of the slowness in loading, since usually loading from HDDs is faster than using an optical media.
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Post by akumajo » Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:38 pm

just how slow are 5400 RPM vs 7200 RPM ?

can you give us an exemple with a game ?

other tests that can be done are with a 10 000 RPM HDD or flash drive ...

also, which filesystem is used ? fat, fat32, ntfs, ext, other ?
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Post by emu_kidid » Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:52 am

FAT32 for now. the comparison between a 5400rpm sata (through a sata->ide adapter) compared to an ide 7200pm (direct connection, no adapter) is quite noticeable. I.e. you'd think the game is frozen if you didn't know any better than to keep waiting where as it'd be almost instantaneous on the 7200 ide.
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Post by Burbruee » Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:58 pm

I have a 200 GB 3.5" IDE from Western Digital. (WD2000) I'm pretty sure it's only 5400 rpm. Do you think it will be fast or slow?
How's the performance compared to sd-cards? For example in F-Zero GX there's always choppiness in the cinematic before the stage begins. Can I expect them to go away or not?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMiDas0MXA8 <-- Check first 10 seconds.
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Post by liquitt » Sun Jan 09, 2011 8:01 pm

my guess is that 5.4k RPM IDE HDDs will work fine....
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Post by emu_kidid » Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:06 pm

Burbruee, I suspect it's still there, though I haven't tried. If I manage to get it working without a disc in the drive it should be a tiny bit faster but that's a long shot.
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Post by kevstah2004 » Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:16 pm

There's some 7200rpm 500GB IDE HDP725050GLAT80, WD5000AAKB on Ebay atm.
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Post by liquitt » Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:57 am

kevstah2004 wrote:There's some 7200rpm 500GB IDE HDP725050GLAT80, WD5000AAKB on Ebay atm.
erm, thats nothing special... :?
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Post by kevstah2004 » Sun Jan 16, 2011 10:00 pm

There was about 6 going fearly cheap about £25-30.
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Post by KAISER77 » Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:36 pm

When I buy the item, I will have to buy a HD 500GB IDE 7200...

Thx for the list:)
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Post by ct_the_1 » Tue Feb 15, 2011 9:52 pm

I had a Samsung Spinpoint P80 laying around here: It is fast, quiet and working with swiss! :D
Specs[1]: IDE, 80gb, 7200 rpm, made in 2004
Works well with all 7 games, i have tested so far.

[1]http://reviews.cnet.com/internal-hard-d ... ?tag=specs

Seagate Barracuda 20 gb, is not working: black screen after boot with all games.
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Post by doktor_krotch » Sat Feb 19, 2011 11:03 pm

Has anyone tried a SSD with this? I had a thought about using one in a gc case mod, since it's smaller than a 3.5" HDD but should give good performance like a 7200rpm HDD.
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Post by Burbruee » Sat Feb 19, 2011 11:42 pm

I've tested:

Samsung SpinPoint 120 GB (not sure if 5400/7200rpm): Not working. (able to read, but not boot. First I made folders for each game and when entering a dir it showed up corrupted symbol names like ÿÿÿÿbbbbbüü, harddrive is healthy)
Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 200 GB. This one didn't work either, but I suspected that and I don't think it's healthy. Makes weird noises. It was able to boot games, but they all stopped on the title or splash screen, started loading for 5-10min+ and making clicking sounds.
Western Digital 5400rpm (I think? Not sure, but I know it's ATA100 not ATA133) 200 GB Works perfectly. :)
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Post by kevstah2004 » Sun Feb 20, 2011 1:21 am

ct_the_1 wrote:I had a Samsung Spinpoint P80 laying around here: It is fast, quiet and working with swiss! :D
Specs[1]: IDE, 80gb, 7200 rpm, made in 2004
Works well with all 7 games, i have tested so far.

[1]http://reviews.cnet.com/internal-hard-d ... ?tag=specs

Seagate Barracuda 20 gb, is not working: black screen after boot with all games.
What's it's LBA bit rating?
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Post by ct_the_1 » Sun Feb 20, 2011 4:19 am

kevstah2004 wrote:[...]What's it's LBA bit rating?
As [1] says it uses ultra-ata/66, I would assume 28-bit LBA.

[1]ftp://ftp.seagate.com/techsuppt/at/ST320430.A
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Post by kevstah2004 » Sun Feb 20, 2011 4:36 am

Odd my 4.32GB Fujitsu MPC3043AT 5400-RPM made 1999 works fine ATA-33
http://www.ciao.co.uk/Productinformatio ... B__5408195
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Post by ct_the_1 » Sun Feb 20, 2011 5:11 am

Maybe it is the cable select vs. master thingy?
Will try my barracuda again, though i dont want to use it, cause its loud and has only 20 gb :D
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Re: Compatible HDD's

Post by kevstah2004 » Sun Feb 20, 2011 5:19 am

Possibly try cb and ms, What cable you using with it 40 or 80? not that I think it makes a difference but i'm yet to try it with a 80.
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