Wii DVD/Wiikey Fusion/WODE + GC Portable Discussion
Re: Building a portable GC: Need options other than DVD
Yay! sundriver's arrived today. Actually much faster shipping than I expected. Just waiting on cables to get here now. Hopefully they wont take long
Re: Building a portable GC: Need options other than DVD
Just a small update:
Took my Wii apart yet again to see if it would USB load games without the dvd drive hooked up (no go) so while I had it open I figured I'd try and deduce what exactly pin 31 does. Ended up with nothing. Its not reset or anything else obvious that I can tell with just a multimeter. Maybe it does nothing? Hopefully its not needed for what we're doing anyway.
Also since I will be testing soon I figure I should heatsink my naked cube again. Is there any reason Ninty used those weird gray pads under the heatsink for thermal transfer? Safe to toss em and use thermal paste?
Took my Wii apart yet again to see if it would USB load games without the dvd drive hooked up (no go) so while I had it open I figured I'd try and deduce what exactly pin 31 does. Ended up with nothing. Its not reset or anything else obvious that I can tell with just a multimeter. Maybe it does nothing? Hopefully its not needed for what we're doing anyway.
Also since I will be testing soon I figure I should heatsink my naked cube again. Is there any reason Ninty used those weird gray pads under the heatsink for thermal transfer? Safe to toss em and use thermal paste?
Re: Building a portable GC: Need options other than DVD
the grey pads nintendo used are quite thick! so be sure to have contact between processors and heatsink when using paste!!
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Re: Building a portable GC: Need options other than DVD
just put a thick layer, should be ok (really cake it on).
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Re: Building a portable GC: Need options other than DVD
Or find some thing that is solid aluminium or copper that will work as a shim between the chips and heat sink. I recently just used a 1980 penny (full copper pennies were phased out in spring 1982) sanded smooth to act as a shim between the GPU and heat sink to fix a laptop for a friend.
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Quick update before I head to work. I got everything all wired up (after waiting forever for my ribbon cables to arrive). Everything works.... Kinda... The GC boots to normal screen when disc is not inserted and the sundriver initializes and mounts the hard drive. I am able to connect the sundriver to my PC via usb and upload the GC boot channel and games. The only catch however is that the GC acts like the disc cover is open at all times.... The DVD controller board is gone obviously so I cannot just "jump" those pins out. The elusive pin 31 gives an output of 1.3v coming from the sundriver... I'm thinking now that this is the Disc In signal for the Wii? (will test later). Since I have no idea where to connect this to the MB of the gamecube to tell it the disc cover is closed I am going to try wiring up my viper extreme to the board and see what happens when I set the viper to tell it the door is always closed. I wont get a chance till much later tonight though. Wish me luck!
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i also have a viper gc extreme and when i have disconnect the drive board from my gamecube it doesnt boot on. it waits for the drive board all the time.
maybe there is a option to disable this but I dont think so.
On my other cube with qoob pro this problem doesnt exist.
maybe there is a option to disable this but I dont think so.
On my other cube with qoob pro this problem doesnt exist.
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Ashen, I have a feeling that we've mixed up the lid stuff perhaps. Also, did you wire up 5v and 12v to the other connector? I'm curious where you grabbed the power from. I've 80% wired up also.
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Emu, I've been wrong before but I'm pretty sure we have all the pins correct. I tested the GC pins 12 and 14 (disc in) from the GC and the Wii (cant remember matching wii pins iff the top of my head) mainboards and on both the outputs were constant 3.3v FROM both MB's. Pin 31 I am still only guessing what it does but i can say after having everything else wired up i get 1.3v output FROM the sundriver from this pin. I grabbed power for all of the sundriver (3.4v, 5v and 12v) straight from the GC power regulator board. I also supplied the sundriver with 3.4v on pins 32 and 30 as it seems to need this. I'll post some pics later when i get home.
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Awesome, thanks a bunch. So close, yet so far :p I can ask around a few people in the meantime.
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Oh and by the way, the ViperGC Extreme / Cobra BIOS tell it that the lid is shut via a pass-thru cable which you will have nowhere to connect to?
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I think it may be via a bios hack. If not my effort later tonight will be a wasted one.
Also the reason i believe that its just missing the lid closed signal is that i get the "please insert disc" msg when i go to gameplay or w/e and not the "no disc" msg.
Also the reason i believe that its just missing the lid closed signal is that i get the "please insert disc" msg when i go to gameplay or w/e and not the "no disc" msg.
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Yes, that would make sense. I don't think it's a hack to the IPL (bios) because then each game would also need patching. I think it simply overrides (with voltage) the lid switch. an option would be to check pins on the 32 pin connector whilst a Gamecube is running in the bios and to see which pins change voltage when the lid switch is triggered?
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Well. I disconnected my viper chip from my 2nd cube today and even afterwards it still thinks the lid is closed all the time
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Did you do it after the game had booted? It's possible it overrides it in the DVD Drive patch code that it uploads.
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I turned it on with the lid open just to see. The red laser came on and looked around then it just said no disc. This is why i figured i'd try. If i hook it up and apply w/e patch it does. I can probably just disconnect it and put it back in my other cube again.
I may also be mistaken. I didnt have alot of time before work today. More on this when i get home.
I may also be mistaken. I didnt have alot of time before work today. More on this when i get home.
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I'm pretty sure the patch is to the DVD drive in that case, not much we can do from there
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Now that I'm home for a bit I've gotten to do a bit more testing. The GC is actually toggling between the "please insert a nintendo gamecube disc" and "reading disc" message when I go to the "gameplay" tab. I will install my viper tomorrow and see what happens I guess. It seems now like it knows something is there but it just wont boot it. Maybe the viper will fix this?
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nice setup there keep us posted!
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That's pretty awesome.. I'm going to wire it up tonight! (even if I'm up all night )
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This is off the chain!
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So I wired mine up, power up the GC and I get nothing, just a black screen - hopefully the GC I wired it up to wasn't dead before..
The Sundriver does power on the blue LED about 2 seconds in and it lasts for about 5-10 seconds before turning off. Haven't tried to connect it to a PC yet, but the hdd attached does not spin up when connected to the GC. I don't think I've wired up the power connector on the Sundriver correctly, it seems the pins that want 12V are also bridged with the ones that want 5V so I only wired up the 5V and left it at that. I'm calling it a night for now.
The Sundriver does power on the blue LED about 2 seconds in and it lasts for about 5-10 seconds before turning off. Haven't tried to connect it to a PC yet, but the hdd attached does not spin up when connected to the GC. I don't think I've wired up the power connector on the Sundriver correctly, it seems the pins that want 12V are also bridged with the ones that want 5V so I only wired up the 5V and left it at that. I'm calling it a night for now.
Re: Building a portable GC: Need options other than DVD
Emu,
First thing is to make sure that all the switches on your sundriver are set AWAY from the LED. If even one of them is out of position I get a black screen when I power on my GC.
This is how I wired up my power:
Looking at the board like in my picture I have marked where I have 12v wired, from there it goes:
(12 pins)
12v
12v
gnd
gnd
5v
5v
gnd
gnd
3.4v
3.4v
gnd
gnd
Of course I just bridged all like connections together for ease of soldering.
Here is a pinout of the GC regulator board and its outputs for reference:
Hope this helps ^_^
First thing is to make sure that all the switches on your sundriver are set AWAY from the LED. If even one of them is out of position I get a black screen when I power on my GC.
This is how I wired up my power:
Looking at the board like in my picture I have marked where I have 12v wired, from there it goes:
(12 pins)
12v
12v
gnd
gnd
5v
5v
gnd
gnd
3.4v
3.4v
gnd
gnd
Of course I just bridged all like connections together for ease of soldering.
Here is a pinout of the GC regulator board and its outputs for reference:
Hope this helps ^_^
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yep that makes perfect sense, I never tried all switches in one direction
Also, I'm using a DOL-101 so I've just randomly taken the 3.3V from the EXI bus and the 5V from pin 2 of the DVD connector. 12v I'll take straight from near the fan someplace.
I'm a bit worried cause I didn't wire up the 12v yet, but I checked that spot with a multimeter and it was getting 5v already?
Almost there, I'll have to post up pictures of my monstrosity later on. I wish I'd wired it up like you with the flex cable and not by removing the connector :p
Also, I'm using a DOL-101 so I've just randomly taken the 3.3V from the EXI bus and the 5V from pin 2 of the DVD connector. 12v I'll take straight from near the fan someplace.
I'm a bit worried cause I didn't wire up the 12v yet, but I checked that spot with a multimeter and it was getting 5v already?
Almost there, I'll have to post up pictures of my monstrosity later on. I wish I'd wired it up like you with the flex cable and not by removing the connector :p
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yes pleaseemu_kidid wrote:Almost there, I'll have to post up pictures of my monstrosity later on.
please search before you ask - a lot has been discussed already!
(or use google with "site:gc-forever.com *term*")
http://is.gd/MDmZcr
we also have a wiki filled with knowledge
http://is.gd/dX58Rm
(or use google with "site:gc-forever.com *term*")
http://is.gd/MDmZcr
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