WASP Fusion , maximum SD Card size ?

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WASP Fusion , maximum SD Card size ?

Post by s8n187 » Mon Oct 26, 2015 9:14 am

hi members , i was wondering what is the maximum SD Card size a WASP Fusion can use ?............im guessing 32GB


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Re: WASP Fusion , maximum SD Card size ?

Post by Xaranar » Mon Oct 26, 2015 9:29 am

I'm not sure what the ceiling is, but I'm using a 128GB SDXC with no problems. It came formatted as exFAT, and the WKF only reads FAT or FAT32, but I reformatted it as FAT32 and it worked perfectly.
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Re: WASP Fusion , maximum SD Card size ?

Post by badsector » Mon Oct 26, 2015 9:59 am

If I remember correctly, only 32 or 64GB can be addressed, even if the bigger SD card is recognized.
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Re: WASP Fusion , maximum SD Card size ?

Post by Xaranar » Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:02 am

badsector wrote:If I remember correctly, only 32 or 64GB can be addressed, even if the bigger SD card is recognized.
Not true, my whole card is addressed.
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Re: WASP Fusion , maximum SD Card size ?

Post by novenary » Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:28 am

Up to 64GB is supported, you can use larger cards but you can only use the first 64GB on them.
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Re: WASP Fusion , maximum SD Card size ?

Post by badsector » Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:34 am

Xaranar wrote:
badsector wrote:If I remember correctly, only 32 or 64GB can be addressed, even if the bigger SD card is recognized.
Not true, my whole card is addressed.
Try starting every ISO on a full 128GB card, it should not work.
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Re: WASP Fusion , maximum SD Card size ?

Post by novenary » Mon Oct 26, 2015 11:09 am

The FAT is always stored at the beginning of the partition, that's why it lists the files, but it won't be able to play games as badsector pointed out.
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Re: WASP Fusion , maximum SD Card size ?

Post by Xaranar » Mon Oct 26, 2015 11:39 am

Huh. Well I'll be damned. Makes sense I guess, as I haven't yet got 64GB worth of stuff on there yet so I've not run into any problems.
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Re: WASP Fusion , maximum SD Card size ?

Post by badsector » Mon Oct 26, 2015 3:32 pm

So, why do you state then, that all of your card can be addressed? :D
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Re: WASP Fusion , maximum SD Card size ?

Post by s8n187 » Mon Oct 26, 2015 3:36 pm

thanks guys for the info , much appreciated

edit...........


btw can you use shrunk ISO's ?
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Re: WASP Fusion , maximum SD Card size ?

Post by badsector » Mon Oct 26, 2015 7:45 pm

I shrinked most of my ISOs and use them with the WKF/WASP.
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Re: WASP Fusion , maximum SD Card size ?

Post by Xaranar » Mon Oct 26, 2015 7:55 pm

How does one shrink an ISO? And doesn't that increase loading times as it has to decompress on the fly?
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Re: WASP Fusion , maximum SD Card size ?

Post by novenary » Mon Oct 26, 2015 7:59 pm

Shrinking ISOs only removes garbage data from discs. A lot of games don't use up the whole disc. No compression is involved, but some games can break when shrunk.
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Re: WASP Fusion , maximum SD Card size ?

Post by badsector » Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:29 pm

The tool I use is called "GCMUtility".
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Re: WASP Fusion , maximum SD Card size ?

Post by megalomaniac » Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:51 pm

there is no "compression" of these isos.
you are thinking of something like zip files...

as streetwalker pointed out:
shrinking an iso is just removing the empty space on a disc since not all titles use the full 1.4GB layer. Some titles are only a few hundred MB in size
The games that break are certain titles that expect certain data at a particular address location on the disc. Once you shrink a title, the address location has changed which makes the data unable to be found. This is how shrinking can break a title. only some are affected, most are fine.



Just to clarify, 64GB is the largest size accepted thru the WKF/WASP slot.
Swiss can read up to 2TB from SDGecko / IDE-EXI
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Re: WASP Fusion , maximum SD Card size ?

Post by Xaranar » Tue Oct 27, 2015 8:24 am

megalomaniac wrote:Just to clarify, 64GB is the largest size accepted thru the WKF/WASP slot.
Swiss can read up to 2TB from SDGecko / IDE-EXI
Is there a reason for this limitation, in terms of hardware? Is it possible to make it larger sizes can be addressed?
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Re: WASP Fusion , maximum SD Card size ?

Post by megalomaniac » Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:17 am

The max size is a hard limit set in the code and can cannot be changed since the source has not been released


remember WKF was released somewhere in late 2009 and created to support WBFS filesystem, not FAT32
most SDHC cards were only released supporting up to 32GB size
even newer SDXC 64GB cards wont work with WKF/WASP unless you reformat the card from exFAT to FAT32


considering we can even use 64GB is a bonus
considering we can even use FAT32 is an even bigger bonus
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Re: WASP Fusion , maximum SD Card size ?

Post by Xaranar » Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:26 am

I had never even heard of the WBFS file system until I came across the WKF, does it exist outside of the WKF, or is it something proprietary? It's not natively recognised by Windows. It seems odd that a piece of hardware would be designed around using a very niche file system, considering FAT32 is supported by everything except your toaster.
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Re: WASP Fusion , maximum SD Card size ?

Post by megalomaniac » Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:28 am

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Re: WASP Fusion , maximum SD Card size ?

Post by tueidj » Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:59 am

WBFS was invented by a couple of twits who were too lazy to implement FAT support and thought it would be a better idea to make up their own crap. It wasn't until later that other people had the "genius" idea to store whole WBFS partitions in single files, providing FAT32 support. Why they thought this was a better idea than simply supporting plain old .iso files is anyone's guess...
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Re: WASP Fusion , maximum SD Card size ?

Post by Xaranar » Tue Oct 27, 2015 4:30 pm

tueidj wrote:WBFS was invented by a couple of twits who were too lazy to implement FAT support and thought it would be a better idea to make up their own crap. It wasn't until later that other people had the "genius" idea to store whole WBFS partitions in single files, providing FAT32 support. Why they thought this was a better idea than simply supporting plain old .iso files is anyone's guess...
So... you had whole WBFS images, stored on a FAT32 partition? And contained within are game backups? If I understand that correctly, that's really arse-way backwards.
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Re: WASP Fusion , maximum SD Card size ?

Post by tueidj » Wed Oct 28, 2015 12:12 am

That's correct.
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Re: WASP Fusion , maximum SD Card size ?

Post by emu_kidid » Wed Oct 28, 2015 7:09 am

It's like storing entire FAT partitions on NTFS with a single file in it, very backwards.
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Re: WASP Fusion , maximum SD Card size ?

Post by Hucklebuck » Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:18 pm

So we can use SD cards that are 64 GB with Wasp, how should they be formatted?
Does it matter that brand of the card?, or is it hit or miss with compatibility?
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Re: WASP Fusion , maximum SD Card size ?

Post by Hucklebuck » Thu Nov 26, 2015 5:41 pm

Can anyone help with some info.... I'm looking to get a SD card for my WASP, is it picky about what card I use? See previous post.
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