DVD Drive Emulator Question

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Manuu
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Re: DVD Drive Emulator Question

Post by Manuu » Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:29 pm

Soliner wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:43 pm
This «new wonderfull» product was supposed to be an alternative to the hard-do-find WASP/Wiikey, not a product with less features (read the full topic before saying nonsense like «build your own solution»)...
Realy ? It's not McDonald's... Meneerbeer are not here to adapt to YOUR requirements. As i have said, you don't like this product, well buy a Wasp ( https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpr ... 3923490988) , buy a QSB and stop bothering people... You have choice. :roll:
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Re: DVD Drive Emulator Question

Post by Greg2600 » Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:14 am

Syntax wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:36 pm
Wode accepts USB hard drives and a SD card at the same time.

The entire set of GC will not fit on a SD card but will fit on a HDD, likewise for Wii games if anyone were to fit this to a Wii or if the project branched that way in the future.

Limiting the system to SD is a bit silly IMO.
Most of the ODE solutions these days are SD Card based. If they support SDXC, you can use a 2TB card. GC Loader page sounds like it's SDXC supported.
FAT32 format a 512GB* or lower memory card. Place an ISO file on the memory card called boot.iso and insert the memory card.

* 1TB cards are untested but should work. There might be some memory cards that will not work but is not expected.

I'm not sure what the disagreement is about? This ODE is no different than the Dreamcast/Saturn solutions currently being offered? They involve removal of the disc drives. I've openly inquired on whether you could develop an interface via the port the GBA Player uses, as it would be quite a bit faster than anything BUT this direct drive interface. Perhaps that could be an SD2SP2 alternative/offshoot in the future, but I certainly have no skills to try!
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Re: DVD Drive Emulator Question

Post by Extrems » Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:22 am

Greg2600 wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:14 am
I've openly inquired on whether you could develop an interface via the port the GBA Player uses, as it would be quite a bit faster than anything BUT this direct drive interface.
External Interface: 3.375 MB/s
Disc Interface: ~20 MB/s
SDRAM Interface (Game Boy Player): 81 MB/s

Note that using it would rely on software methods, and as such, have the same compatibility.

And for good measure, the disc read speed is 2.1-3.325 MiB/s.

Oh, and fun fact, the Game Boy Player generates 26 MB/s worth of data. 2/3 of which is audio.
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Re: DVD Drive Emulator Question

Post by Soliner » Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:04 pm

Papy.G wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 6:35 pm
So, I assume you have a DOL-101?
No, I only have DOL-001.
Papy.G wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 6:35 pm
There, I agree, but you don't have to bash them for doing something with less functionnalities, because it was nonetheless a hard work to get it done. In the end, choice is given to you to buy this or not. Maybe even someone will eventually pop with a dual-drive upgrade for it in some months.
I'm not bashing, I was replying to a stupid comment from Manuu. My first message was a reply to Link83, who was also complaining for the lack of passthrough. My intend was not to bash the great work made by meneerbeer, but to add my voice to the people asking for this feature (at least 3 on this board, and many more on Shmup board).
Papy.G wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 6:35 pm
There are some great softmods for the Wii that reduce much the targeted market. I agree that it is not exactly the same, but it does the job quite well for most, and wayyy cheaper! (Wii+component cable≠GC+HD device+DVD emulator)
Yes, but this mode would work on Wii for almost no extra cost. The more option we have, the better for everyone. It is even possible to create PCB with extra pins to support the various drive connectors.
Manuu wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:29 pm
Realy ? It's not McDonald's... Meneerbeer are not here to adapt to YOUR requirements. As i have said, you don't like this product, well buy a Wasp ( https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpr ... 3923490988) , buy a QSB and stop bothering people... You have choice. :roll:
I think I'm going to mute you, you are way too childish to have an interesting conversation with you.
(En d'autres mots, t'es trop gamin.)
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Re: DVD Drive Emulator Question

Post by Papy.G » Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:05 pm

Greg2600 wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:14 am
I've openly inquired on whether you could develop an interface via the port the GBA Player uses, as it would be quite a bit faster than anything BUT this direct drive interface. Perhaps that could be an SD2SP2 alternative/offshoot in the future, but I certainly have no skills to try!
One of the main reason many of us here rather use the GC over a Wii is the GameBoy Player, and, as you say, it already uses this port. The only good reason to use this particular port, and maybe with a passthrough to GBPlayer, if possible, would be a SDRam expansion.
The disc bus offers data transfer rates over what we could have dreamt of, and yet, the SD card solutions still have to reach that speed. Also, it has been proven that drive select can be achieved on it, and it is the way that may allow the most compatibility, since it's the "natural" way games are loaded.
Nothing can compare to SD2SP2 since it is the easiest and cheapest way ever to access to SD cards (almost just cables are needed) with compatibility as a tradeoff.
Soliner wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:04 pm
No, I only have DOL-001.
Didn't you have to lose functionnality when installing the GC Dual?
Soliner wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:04 pm
My intend was not to bash the great work made by meneerbeer, but to add my voice to the people asking for this feature (at least 3 on this board, and many more on Shmup board).
OK, so what about an individual board with the possibility to choose between one device and the other?
If both peripherals are equipped with three state outputs, it may be just a matter of ChipSelect.
How the previous systems with two drives selected which drive they activate?
How many of you would be happy with a switch selection?
DMG/MF OC, AGB/SC miniSD, NTR/NeoMK3, USG/flashme V8/SC miniSD
DOL001(EUR)/RGB/GCPlug/GBP/SD2SP2, RVL 001(EUR)/RGB/CMP/WiiSD

SD2SP2 in action on video
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Re: DVD Drive Emulator Question

Post by Greg2600 » Sat Nov 16, 2019 2:00 am

Hmm, very interesting answers guys! Guess I'll try to get an SD2SP2 the next time they're in stock.
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Re: DVD Drive Emulator Question

Post by meneerbeer » Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:21 pm

Thanks for all the input on DVD pass-through. I will keep it in mind for the future. Maybe there will be a limited run, for instance.

Right now the consideration was to add most important features that still allow for a relatively easy installation.
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Re: DVD Drive Emulator Question

Post by waiwainl » Fri Nov 22, 2019 9:08 pm

Bedankt voor alle moeite zover meneerbeer!
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