Plug and play drive replacement adapter Idea

Portables, case replacements, mods etc, all in here!

Which connector strategy is preferred?

Drop in plug-n-play, may take a very long time to come up with something
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55%
DVD Port substitute, requires soldering modification
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16%
I dont care as long as i dont have to make my own FPC cable mod
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29%
 
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Re: Plug and play drive replacement adapter Idea

Post by megalomaniac » Sat Apr 05, 2014 11:50 pm

received the designs back from the factory...
im pretty happy with the results...

here is a sneak peek of the designs...


V3 plug n play - no DVD drive
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V4 plug n play - with DVD drive
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V5 quick solder board for portables - supports Uncut to Medium cut
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V6 quick solder board for portables - supports Uncut to OMGWTF cut
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Re: Plug and play drive replacement adapter Idea

Post by badsector » Sun Apr 06, 2014 12:10 am

Very nice! I am looking forward especially to V4!
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Re: Plug and play drive replacement adapter Idea

Post by Diminuendo » Sun Apr 06, 2014 1:00 am

duuuude that V6 is all kinds of sex
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Re: Plug and play drive replacement adapter Idea

Post by novenary » Sun Apr 06, 2014 6:36 am

These all look very nice. :D
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Re: Plug and play drive replacement adapter Idea

Post by liquitt » Sun Apr 06, 2014 8:38 pm

awesome-o!!!

that will be a nice session with badsector in berlin ;)
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Re: Plug and play drive replacement adapter Idea

Post by badsector » Sun Apr 06, 2014 8:39 pm

I guess so :D
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Re: Plug and play drive replacement adapter Idea

Post by public-pervert » Fri Apr 11, 2014 6:58 pm

Looking forward to the v6! ;D
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Re: Plug and play drive replacement adapter Idea

Post by Gamemaster24 » Sat Apr 12, 2014 11:02 pm

So how does one purchase a MEGAdrive adapter?
Well…..That went well. "Malcolm Reynolds Captain of Firefly"
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Re: Plug and play drive replacement adapter Idea

Post by novenary » Sat Apr 12, 2014 11:32 pm

You just wait for Mega to announce he's ready for selling then you post in his march madness sale thread to order one.
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Re: Plug and play drive replacement adapter Idea

Post by Ashen » Sat Apr 12, 2014 11:46 pm

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Re: Plug and play drive replacement adapter Idea

Post by siphoned » Sun Apr 13, 2014 3:06 am

Alright, the v5 and v6 are 'quick solder' for portables. How difficult would you say the install is for the v5 or v6 boards?

I know the answer is relative for each person as everyone has different soldering skills and experience... compared to the install process of the first released MEGAdrive...... much harder or about the same?
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Re: Plug and play drive replacement adapter Idea

Post by novenary » Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:18 am

Seeing how v5 is pretty much a v1 that mounts under the motherboard it should be about the same I think.
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Re: Plug and play drive replacement adapter Idea

Post by megalomaniac » Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:57 am

no pins required for V5...
pins are optional, but the holes are a lot bigger this time to allow fitting solder wire and just heating it in place...


V6 will need to use a technique of solder drag at low temp...about 440*F or 540*F..you need low heat not to disturb the filters
the MEGAdrive pads will have to be "bridged" to the filters...it might seem a little unusual, but after a bit of messing around, it becomes obvious how to do it and still faster than soldering wires to the WKF/WASP...



in comparison to V1?
well no pins so its an improvement, difficulty is still based on experience but more friendly this time...
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Re: Plug and play drive replacement adapter Idea

Post by megalomaniac » Mon Apr 14, 2014 6:13 am

V6 install

took about 10 minutes of playing with the iron heat to get the solder to bridge correctly....after that it only took about 5 minutes solder the rest of the pads to the filters....then add a few more minutes to solder power, pin29, lid..

i suggest practicing solder bridges on old circuit boards with components very closely spaced to get the proper technique and reduce possibility of damaging the GC mainboard...as stated before low temp would be ideal so the solder can slightly melt but not totally liquefy...
then epoxy as usual....not too much or you might have overflow on the FFC connector ( unless thats the goal )

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Re: Plug and play drive replacement adapter Idea

Post by ShockSlayer » Mon Apr 14, 2014 7:26 am

Ashen wrote:I think I love you.
These boards are incredibly sexy.

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Re: Plug and play drive replacement adapter Idea

Post by webhdx » Mon Apr 14, 2014 7:53 am

Awesome idea. V6 is really great product as it's not that hard to solder and it eliminates neccessity to remove drive socket from the motherboard. Would you share pcb files?
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Re: Plug and play drive replacement adapter Idea

Post by novenary » Mon Apr 14, 2014 8:50 am

The problem is that it sits under the motherboard. That makes it harder to install in a home Cube. Same for v5, which is actually easier to solder. V4 is the thing though. I wonder how it works.
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Re: Plug and play drive replacement adapter Idea

Post by Diminuendo » Mon Apr 14, 2014 9:29 am

It'll fit fine under the cube, I stick my WKF under the board with double sided tape for my home cube
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Re: Plug and play drive replacement adapter Idea

Post by novenary » Mon Apr 14, 2014 9:50 am

Yeah that works if you don't keep the DVD drive.
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Re: Plug and play drive replacement adapter Idea

Post by Diminuendo » Mon Apr 14, 2014 11:59 am

no, I have the DVD drive hooked up too...
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Re: Plug and play drive replacement adapter Idea

Post by novenary » Mon Apr 14, 2014 12:25 pm

Why is that ?
Edit : Forget it, I misread have as hate. :?
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Re: Plug and play drive replacement adapter Idea

Post by emu_kidid » Mon Apr 14, 2014 10:48 pm

That v6 is awesome :D
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Re: Plug and play drive replacement adapter Idea

Post by public-pervert » Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:48 am

@Megalomaniac: What if the DD filter were already removed? All my OMGWTF board cuts needs the filters to be removed and without them it would be a pain to solder that (beautiful) QSB due the thickness of the board. Wouldn't be possible to add vias on the pads and cut thru them, so we have "side pads"? Or have you considered the flex PCB idea? I'm not criticising, just trying to be helpful. Good work!
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Re: Plug and play drive replacement adapter Idea

Post by megalomaniac » Fri Apr 18, 2014 3:34 am

@ public-pervert
no criticism taken


when i was in process of designing v6 i was not sure if i was going to go the direction of traditional pcb or flex...
the design layout was up in the air and waiting till i finalized the concept...
ultimately i decided on traditional PCB rather than flex...

having a flex design would be great for those like you who do not have filters....
and also allow for an almost flat solder drag to the pads on the GC mainboard....
this was the most advantageous aspect of flex pcb design....

however, the physical design of the board had to be considered....
was i going to design 32pin flex connection at the end or have a FFC connector to allow a FFC cable to be mated?
this is what really bugged be for a while....



if i designed the flex to have a FFC cable type end, then the WKF / WASP could only be positioned to the limit of the flex cable design...
this means any other design considerations are ruled out since the WKF/WASP must be located at a certain position...
i wanted to allow the installer the opportunity to place the modchip in the best location possible for the individual application design...

also, when the FFC connector is closed onto a cable or flex pcb design, there is a wear and tear that occurs...
i did not want to have the the possibility for a soldered on flex design to malfunction due to a possible wear and tear issue...


i have read numerous posts of how people tried to solder directly onto a flex cable and had so many issues with burning or melting the conductors...
this is something i hoped to avoid


considering these all these potential limitations and issues i also had to consider the thickness of a flex design vs pcb...
a flex cable is .3mm in thickness with the backing....
the PCB i created is .4mm in thickness...
im sure if you can solder drag a design of .3mm thickness, it would not be such a task to solder drag at traditional pcb at .4mm thickness




lets fact the facts...some people solder like shit...and burn up boards in the soldering process...
some people have even posted about burning up FFC cables while trying to solder...


my main concern was to provide a product which could withstand some abuse during the soldering process...
thats why i designed V6 with 2oz gold contacts to make sure they can hold up to the abuse...
also since the design has an included FFC connector, a cable can be replaced at anytime which is a huge advantage compared to having to desolder a flex design and installing a new one if the FFC end were to wear out...
not to mention a longer FFC cable of up to about 200mm length can be used if someone needs to extend the position of the modchip...
this is something i cannot account for in a flex design with a set termination point for an FFC end...


it really took a while for me consider all the positives and negatives of possibilities...
in the end, i believe i have come up with the most ideal solution to allow the modder not only to have a solid sturdy board design, but to also to have a design which allows a one time installation....meaning when cables wear out, they can be replaced....
going back to my previous....(would you rather replace a cable) or (desolder and resolder a new v6 flex)
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Re: Plug and play drive replacement adapter Idea

Post by megalomaniac » Fri Apr 18, 2014 8:32 pm

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