Wii DVD/Wiikey Fusion/WODE + GC Portable Discussion

[Ashen]

Ashen, I noticed that on the video it boots straight up from the GC menu, what's different about it now? Also, where'd you get those drives from? I'm interested in buying one

Not really sure what is different now besides the drive revision. The only thing I changed at all is the wire length. This new revision of the Wii drive seems much more prone to latency issues than my dms drive. As long as the game is in the drive before power on now it is autobooting them here's where I bought my drives from: http://crazydealguy.mybisi.com/product/ ... ntendo-wii you may be better off looking on e-bay first though. I saw some drives on there for $30ish.

Emu, forgot to mention. I sent 3.3v to pin 32 before i chopped those new drives up. No difference with the disc loading mech. It didnt hurt anything either though. 3.3v may be needed on this pin for chips like wiikey/wode/sundriver still.

Is this because the Gamecube uses 12v or is it 5v? It would be simple to make a voltage divider circuit to get you 3.3v.

The original GC regulator outputs 1.9v, 3.3v, 5v and 12v

@ Zenloc, Very nice man! Thx for taking the time to help test some different modchips. I'm really really hoping we can get either the Wiikey Fusion or WODE working with this setup. Looking forward to that

Edit: Also I forgot to mention I did some reading on how "most" wii modchips work. From what I gather Wii chips execute some kind of exploit of the (video)dvd part of the Wii drive which was at first built in because Nintendo apparently originally was going to allow video dvd playback? In the newest revision of the drives nintendo has apparently removed this feature, which is why the D4(D3S) drives are now modchip incompatible. Somehow though the Wiikey fusion still works with loading games from an SD card though. Even with the new drives.

[Abb_eliten]

Maybe it has to do with that the wiikey fusion can completely emulate the drive, like the wode and sundriver
When loading isos from the SD card it doesn't need to communicate with the drive at all, and therefore doesn't need the exploit of older drives.

"The reason we have added a tick for "any future DVD drives" is because the Wiikey Fusion is a total DVD drive emulator. In fact, you can actually take your DVD drive out if you want, and just load games from the SD card"

[Ashen]

Maybe it has to do with that the wiikey fusion can completely emulate the drive, like the wode and sundriver
When loading isos from the SD card it doesn't need to communicate with the drive at all, and therefore doesn't need the exploit of older drives.

"The reason we have added a tick for "any future DVD drives" is because the Wiikey Fusion is a total DVD drive emulator. In fact, you can actually take your DVD drive out if you want, and just load games from the SD card"

Yep, Lets keep our fingers crossed

On a side note, everything except my screens should be here today (batterys, case + extra Dol-001 GC I ordered) my audio amps + Wii drives have already arrived. My wife was in an accident the other day and her SUV is pretty biffed, everyone is O.K. which is the important part but we have a 500$ deductible insurance payment coming now and the day before that happened my Truck decided to start squirting out antifreeze from the water pump. Needless to say these are unexpected expenses I've run into so I may be waiting a bit to order anymore stuff (sundriver updater module, etc.) so for a bit here I'll just be working with what I have.

Edit: Also I've come to find out that "some" D2lites may be flashed with wiikey2 firmware. i'm going to be trying this when I get some time

[LOCtronicz]

Sorry to hear about your wife's accident. Insurance is always a pain when it comes to money. Hope everything get's sorted.

Added another video to my previous post. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4E3xoiJ4fQ

I'll be adding another in a bit. The WiiKey fusion is the next one to test. Let's hope it will work.........(crossing my fingers)

[LOCtronicz]

THE DISCOVERY OF THE CENTURY!!!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jht0PBJVTZE

Thanks to Ashen, Emu_Kidid and everybody else involved with this mod (including myself )

Wiikey fusion updated to 1.5. WiiKey Fusion must be connect to 3.3v to work. That's what the 3.3v line is for on the discdrive pinout like Ashen said. Still some game testing to do. But both games in the video have been played for quite awhile and work 100%!!

[ct_the_1]

congrats zenloc!

Time to get a wiikey fusion, i think

[KirovAir]

Great news!!
This should also give the games quite a boost on loading times. Epic work!
Edit:
Wow, it's really small. I'm considering trying this on one of my cubes. This mod should be very silent too I guess.

[Ashen]

Wow!!! Holy shiznit!!! This is faking wonderful. Awesome work Zen!!

[LOCtronicz]

Here's an old cut up gamecube board picture as size comparison.

All you need are the gamecube mobo, regulator, wiikey fusion and the sd card reader addon. I kid you not.... that makes things soooo tiny. All you need is a good cooling system for the cpu and gpu, connect a screen and controller and your set. Ofcourse batteries but that depends on the regulator you use.

[Abb_eliten]

:O :O :O :O :O :O :O...so small....
wow
this is amazing... kudos to all of you guys!

edit: this thing is updateable via the SD reader, right? No separate programmer needed?

[liquitt]

wow, that seriously amazing - awesome work

[LOCtronicz]

Correct! Fully upgradedable via SD, no programmer, nothing extra needed!! Also note that that's my old cut up board. I've been able to make it much smaller on the controller port side. I'll be taking all those little components off to cut it even further when I have the time.

Also did some more testing and my NTSC cube wil not play PAL backups. Neither will my PAL play NTSC backups. There is a region switch on the fusion but when I flip it to the region of the game it comes up with cannot read disc (standard region error)

So it seems that it is region locked. But who really cares!! So for the dummies PAL cubes with fusion set to PAL only PAL backups. NTSC cubes with fusion set to NTSC only NTSC backups.

[Ashen]

Yep, region of console only isn't really a big deal. This is epic enough! Thx again Zen for helping test! Gonna guess I'll be ordering some fusions

Once I get home I'll update the megaguide sticky. Somehow I think more than just portablizers will be doing this mod.

[Abb_eliten]

Great!

Ordered one right now

Is it the CPU 20 board which can be slimmed down more than others? Can't remember...

[Ashen]

Side note to Zenloc's big discovery. The Wode jukebox also uses a linux based GC loader. I'm thinking now it will probably be compatible with the cube also.

[LOCtronicz]

No probs Ashen I thank you for your pinout. Without it we would never have achieved this feature.

All board except rev. C (with the built-in regulator) can be slimmed down just as much. Tchay has taken of a couple of those 5 legged transistors off which makes it slightly more cut than other known cuts but I am actaully going to rewire all those transistor and wire directly to the prossesor chip. Making it possible to cut it down even more.

[emu_kidid]

question, where can I get a CC adapter for the GC?

[Abb_eliten]

Right, so you'll be cutting roughly along the serial number box on the A-side then?

That's gonna be one small board

[LOCtronicz]

I'm gonna cut a bit more than the red line Ashen drew in his cut board pic.

I'm gonna give it a try tomorrow and see if everything is still working properly. You should see the case design I'm going to make for it!! Super small. With super small analogs which nobody has ever seen before used in a portable and a combination of buttons from a tiny gamecube controller and a wii classic controller.

Emu_kidid is it possible to make a different skin on the WiiKey fusion menu?? Would look more slick if it had a theme of some sort.

[Abb_eliten]

Even smaller then!

So you've also found small analogs?
Wonder if it could be something similar to what is on it's way to me
Or do you have contacts in the NGP development team?

[emu_kidid]

zenloc, I plan to write my own loader for the wiikey fusion

[LOCtronicz]

YES!! Even better. You are the man. Can't wait. You already ordered a wiikey fusion??

By the way does the sundrive also use a linux based loader? If so shouldn't it then also work. Maby the reason it didn't work for Ashen was because it wasn't updated to the most recent firmware and that the wires were to long....

Having a 1.8" hdd full with GC games would be even better!!

Gonna be honest there are no small analogs on the market which are better than the ones I'm going to use. They are from a Tapwave zodiac pda. I have contacted the repair service and was able to aquire the last batch of analogs that they had. The are super tiny and super responsive and work on every controller I've tested them on. The NGP analog's don't look that great to me. Ofcourse only time will tell...

[Ashen]

zenloc, I plan to write my own loader for the wiikey fusion

Wiikey swiss loader yum!

[Ashen]

Sundriver uses some hacked version of the crazy taxi GC .iso as a loader. Dunno if updating it would help or not. Anyone have a nero dual programmer I can borrow?

[Abb_eliten]

Those are indeed some compact analogs!

Hopefully, mine will arrive tomorrow. I'm quite certain they are not as small as yours, but hopefully somewhere close.

Do those use use the same concept as regular sticks with 2 potentiometers, or is it some other ingenious system?