1019 memory cards, really good fakes or nintendo went cheap?

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1019 memory cards, really good fakes or nintendo went cheap?

Post by migles » Wed May 13, 2020 6:52 pm

PS (yes i putted the ps on the top) where can i safetly get 2 real 1019 memory cards?

So, i just got 2 memory cards from ebay, 1019 listing said genuine and etc.. but i decided to open one up after reading a review on ebay of someone saying its a counterfeit card..


heres pictures: http://imgur.com/a/xZfkUwc
this really is troubling me, because they had so much work i really start to question what if nintendo really did cheap out..
the package was sealed, everything on it seems normal logos and everything, there is no pixel art or stuff, has nintendo all over it and it was sealed.
inside there was the manual, also looks very legit and the stickers to apply to the memory card etc.. everything
the card itself, everything normal again. i am not sure if its because i know its fake, but the plastic of the card seems a little off, like slightly thinner and flimsly...
the card had tri wing screws however they where grey, while my both 59 and 251 cards have yellow/goldish screws, but i thought since the card was white it was to better match the color.
the only thing that makes me puzzled and believe its a fake, its the insides, black blob thing with a very weird chip and the round pads all over it
but the back it has that gold layer. why did they bothered this much... compared to most fake pokemon games this is a way better done fake... and pokemon gba games you can usually see trough them...

why i dont understand its why did someone bothered so much with the tri wing screws, stickers, manual... you can't see these in the packing, the card costed 22 dollars + shipping, since i am in EU i had to pay import taxes, which wouldn't mind if the cards where genuine

if anyone knows where i can get real genuine 1019 cards i appreciate it.... 251 cards fill pretty quickly with the ammount of games i have and i always love to have official stuff as possible
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Re: 1019 memory cards, really good fakes or nintendo went cheap?

Post by Papy.G » Wed May 13, 2020 9:23 pm

I just think Nintendo went cheap, there are other systems and controllers where the screws color weren't that consistent in the lifespan (seen on GC controllers too). Do you have the plastic composition stamp inside the shell molds? (ABS, PP or something…)
Weren't the first Memcards sold in cardboard boxes? This plastic blister seems to go the cheap way.
Some people state things arbitrarily on the Net, I can't tell for sure for this specific one, but I have read in various places that the WindWaker/OoT/MQ Platinum Gamecube in the pack was a DOL-101, and I can tell you that is not true, I bought one brand new back in the days, and it was a DOL-001!
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Re: 1019 memory cards, really good fakes or nintendo went cheap?

Post by migles » Wed May 13, 2020 9:51 pm

Papy.G wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 9:23 pm
I just think Nintendo went cheap, there are other systems and controllers where the screws color weren't that consistent in the lifespan (seen on GC controllers too). Do you have the plastic composition stamp inside the shell molds? (ABS, PP or something…)
No stamps inside...
it's weird how someone would go this far to make a repro cart it even has the metal shields... But how can I be for sure.. I don't want to trust my precious saves to a repro cart..
now how I am going to get 2 real ones..
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OK, I tried to close it down and now there is one more thing to add to the list, the thing is a pain to assemble it back, the pcb doesn't fit right, after putting the screws there is a part lifted, I had no issues to close down my other memory cards
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Re: 1019 memory cards, really good fakes or nintendo went cheap?

Post by Papy.G » Wed May 13, 2020 10:10 pm

I have never used any Original card, I had a 59 Thrustmaster Harry Potter, 123 Bigben, and Datel 1019 (labelled 16M for whatever reason) from back in the days and never lose data except because of external cause (emulator bug).
I recently bought 251 and 2043 chinese ones, but don't have enough use time to say anything about them, except that one of the two 2043 I bought doesn't reset if plugged in at power on, I need to plug it after to get it work. (Maybe a cap issue, it has been refunded by the seller anyways)
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Re: 1019 memory cards, really good fakes or nintendo went cheap?

Post by migles » Thu May 14, 2020 12:25 am

Papy.G wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 10:10 pm
I have never used any Original card, I had a 59 Thrustmaster Harry Potter, 123 Bigben, and Datel 1019 (labelled 16M for whatever reason) from back in the days and never lose data except because of external cause (emulator bug).
I recently bought 251 and 2043 chinese ones, but don't have enough use time to say anything about them, except that one of the two 2043 I bought doesn't reset if plugged in at power on, I need to plug it after to get it work. (Maybe a cap issue, it has been refunded by the seller anyways)
I did order one of those Chinese multi page cards with a button to switch pages, I hope it works fine, but still I can't trust sensitive saves on them, I really hate to lose game progress
Do people have experience with those multi. Page cards? Like that blue one with 4x2043 blocks
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Re: 1019 memory cards, really good fakes or nintendo went cheap?

Post by Papy.G » Thu May 14, 2020 9:44 am

I don't have those, I feared that'd be bothersome to pass saves from one block to another on the same Card, and I need separate cards for other reasons (3GCs setup, SavExploits…).
You can regularly backup your saves to an SD card with GCMM, then to your computer, if it makes you feel safe.

4x2023 sounds totally insane, it is very likely that you won't need that much space for the games you play the most. BTW, it may not be enough if you have the fullset.
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Re: 1019 memory cards, really good fakes or nintendo went cheap?

Post by lufeig » Sun Aug 30, 2020 2:10 pm

Here are some pictures of my 1019 memory card, for comparison purposes. Btw, the plastic shell is strong and sturdy.
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Re: 1019 memory cards, really good fakes or nintendo went cheap?

Post by gmipf » Mon Nov 02, 2020 2:25 pm

Here is my card. Is also slower than my Big Ben 1019 card.

EDIT: I have exact the same box as the thread starter, including manual and card stickers.

EDIT2: I don't think they are fake. Who would do the effort of faking good manuals, the stickers and shielding? There is also a stamp at the back side bottom right. I think those are different revisions. But the card of lufeig seems to be have a higher probability of being original.

EDIT3: Oh, did a little more research, but they seem to be fake. I think the only original one is the card of lufeig.

EDIT4: Here is the most obvious difference between fake and original: Only on original cards there is a dot at the backside left bottom corner.
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Re: 1019 memory cards, really good fakes or nintendo went cheap?

Post by webhdx » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:59 am

Yeah I think they did cheap out. "The blob" is commonly used in cheap electronics but it doesn't mean it's bad and will break. It's just another way to reduce IC manufacturing cost.
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Re: 1019 memory cards, really good fakes or nintendo went cheap?

Post by gmipf » Wed Nov 18, 2020 5:16 pm

So, I've got my original 1019 card now, see my attachments. As I said before, you need to watch for the dot, as marked here:

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