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Re: ~ The Homeland Project ~

Postby emu_kidid » Tue Sep 27, 2016 4:57 am

Not sure if anyone has noticed but krom (PeterLemon) has begun translating HomeLand and has got quite far already!
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Re: ~ The Homeland Project ~

Postby Sierron » Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:12 pm

Sounds nice. I have two copies of it lying around waiting for online play. A translated game would be awesome.

Thanks for the information, emu_kidid :)
Haha! I have two BBAs now :P | I also have HomeLand and PSO I&II

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Re: ~ The Homeland Project ~

Postby Castellano » Wed Oct 05, 2016 12:15 am

emu_kidid wrote:Not sure if anyone has noticed but krom (PeterLemon) has begun translating HomeLand and has got quite far already!

Fantastic. Any way I can donate to him or something? I'd really like for the Homeland translation to be finished.

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Re: ~ The Homeland Project ~

Postby [krom] » Wed Oct 05, 2016 2:47 am

Hi everyone,
I just joined after seeing my Homeland translation mentioned by emu_kidid here.
It is 1 of 2 GC translation projects I have started recently, the other is Lupin The Third - Lost Treasure Under The Sea which is here:
https://github.com/PeterLemon/GC/tree/master/Translate/Lupin%20The%20Third%20-%20Umi%20Ni%20Kieta%20Hihou

About the Homeland translation, I only found out about this game very recently, & was surprised how few translations there were for JPN only GC games...
I was shown this forum and used as much info from here I could find to get me started.

My main goal is to translate the 1st sections until I get to the already nicely translated youtube Homeland Book Videos by Puutan here:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKmnG2DYkkQ71aS47YPQk1MC8K59wnhmk&feature=view_all

Once I get to this stage it will greatly speed up my work, as I am not a native Japanese speaker, so use a combination of Google translate, & JPN -> ENG dictionaries atm.
Any help would be appreciated for the text I have already translated which can be found in this directory:
https://github.com/PeterLemon/GC/tree/master/Translate/HomeLand/Text

Castellano wrote:Fantastic. Any way I can donate to him or something? I'd really like for the Homeland translation to be finished.

Hi Castellano, I am happy you are interested in my translation, would be great to get this done, any donations would be welcome.
I have a paypal account if you want to donate to this project, you can give me a PM for my paypal email.

Anyway, I will try to get more work done & update here with progress I make.
Thanks for all the help on this forum, which helped get this project started.

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Re: ~ The Homeland Project ~

Postby emu_kidid » Wed Oct 05, 2016 2:51 am

[krom] wrote:Anyway, I will try to get more work done & update here with progress I make.


Welcome krom, looking forward to it :D
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Re: ~ The Homeland Project ~

Postby T1GWBJAH » Wed Oct 05, 2016 7:24 pm

[krom] wrote:Hi everyone,
I just joined after seeing my Homeland translation mentioned by emu_kidid here.
It is 1 of 2 GC translation projects I have started recently, the other is Lupin The Third - Lost Treasure Under The Sea which is here:
https://github.com/PeterLemon/GC/tree/master/Translate/Lupin%20The%20Third%20-%20Umi%20Ni%20Kieta%20Hihou

About the Homeland translation, I only found out about this game very recently, & was surprised how few translations there were for JPN only GC games...
I was shown this forum and used as much info from here I could find to get me started.

My main goal is to translate the 1st sections until I get to the already nicely translated youtube Homeland Book Videos by Puutan here:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKmnG2DYkkQ71aS47YPQk1MC8K59wnhmk&feature=view_all

Once I get to this stage it will greatly speed up my work, as I am not a native Japanese speaker, so use a combination of Google translate, & JPN -> ENG dictionaries atm.
Any help would be appreciated for the text I have already translated which can be found in this directory:
https://github.com/PeterLemon/GC/tree/master/Translate/HomeLand/Text

Castellano wrote:Fantastic. Any way I can donate to him or something? I'd really like for the Homeland translation to be finished.

Hi Castellano, I am happy you are interested in my translation, would be great to get this done, any donations would be welcome.
I have a paypal account if you want to donate to this project, you can give me a PM for my paypal email.

Anyway, I will try to get more work done & update here with progress I make.
Thanks for all the help on this forum, which helped get this project started.


Awesome to see the work you've done on this patch! noticed i had to rename the xdelta3 patch to just xdelta to be able to use the patch and from a quick try it seem to be working quite well!

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Re: ~ The Homeland Project ~

Postby Castellano » Thu Oct 06, 2016 12:07 am

[krom] wrote:Hi everyone,
I just joined after seeing my Homeland translation mentioned by emu_kidid here.
It is 1 of 2 GC translation projects I have started recently, the other is Lupin The Third - Lost Treasure Under The Sea which is here:
https://github.com/PeterLemon/GC/tree/master/Translate/Lupin%20The%20Third%20-%20Umi%20Ni%20Kieta%20Hihou

About the Homeland translation, I only found out about this game very recently, & was surprised how few translations there were for JPN only GC games...
I was shown this forum and used as much info from here I could find to get me started.

My main goal is to translate the 1st sections until I get to the already nicely translated youtube Homeland Book Videos by Puutan here:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKmnG2DYkkQ71aS47YPQk1MC8K59wnhmk&feature=view_all

Once I get to this stage it will greatly speed up my work, as I am not a native Japanese speaker, so use a combination of Google translate, & JPN -> ENG dictionaries atm.
Any help would be appreciated for the text I have already translated which can be found in this directory:
https://github.com/PeterLemon/GC/tree/master/Translate/HomeLand/Text

Castellano wrote:Fantastic. Any way I can donate to him or something? I'd really like for the Homeland translation to be finished.

Hi Castellano, I am happy you are interested in my translation, would be great to get this done, any donations would be welcome.
I have a paypal account if you want to donate to this project, you can give me a PM for my paypal email.

Anyway, I will try to get more work done & update here with progress I make.
Thanks for all the help on this forum, which helped get this project started.


Is there anything else that I/we can do to help you besides donating? I would really REALLY like to see this project finished. I have a few friends who are from Japan and live in the USA, if that's of any use.

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Re: ~ The Homeland Project ~

Postby [krom] » Thu Oct 06, 2016 12:20 am

Castellano wrote:Is there anything else that I/we can do to help you besides donating? I would really REALLY like to see this project finished. I have a few friends who are from Japan and live in the USA, if that's of any use.

Yeah sure, if you & your friends can check the current translation text files in this directory:
https://github.com/PeterLemon/GC/tree/master/Translate/HomeLand/Text

For example the 2 lines like this (you do not have to worry about the hex stuff below): https://github.com/PeterLemon/GC/blob/master/Translate/HomeLand/Text/Story.txt#L5-L6
& just make sure it is a decent English translation from the Japanese that would be great.
If you find anything wrong just notify me here, & I'll try to fix them all up in the game to be correct.

Thanks for your help.

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Re: ~ The Homeland Project ~

Postby Lockdown555 » Thu Oct 13, 2016 6:11 pm

[krom] wrote:Hi everyone,
I just joined after seeing my Homeland translation mentioned by emu_kidid here.
It is 1 of 2 GC translation projects I have started recently, the other is Lupin The Third - Lost Treasure Under The Sea which is here:
https://github.com/PeterLemon/GC/tree/master/Translate/Lupin%20The%20Third%20-%20Umi%20Ni%20Kieta%20Hihou

About the Homeland translation, I only found out about this game very recently, & was surprised how few translations there were for JPN only GC games...
I was shown this forum and used as much info from here I could find to get me started.

My main goal is to translate the 1st sections until I get to the already nicely translated youtube Homeland Book Videos by Puutan here:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKmnG2DYkkQ71aS47YPQk1MC8K59wnhmk&feature=view_all

Once I get to this stage it will greatly speed up my work, as I am not a native Japanese speaker, so use a combination of Google translate, & JPN -> ENG dictionaries atm.
Any help would be appreciated for the text I have already translated which can be found in this directory:
https://github.com/PeterLemon/GC/tree/master/Translate/HomeLand/Text

Castellano wrote:Fantastic. Any way I can donate to him or something? I'd really like for the Homeland translation to be finished.

Hi Castellano, I am happy you are interested in my translation, would be great to get this done, any donations would be welcome.
I have a paypal account if you want to donate to this project, you can give me a PM for my paypal email.

Anyway, I will try to get more work done & update here with progress I make.
Thanks for all the help on this forum, which helped get this project started.


So I just recently stumbled across this game and consequently this forum, sorry for the possibly dumb question but are your translations actually patchable into the game at this point? I know extracting things had been a sticking point for a long time and just wanted to know if you managed to do so and if these translations are just for when someone figures out how to extract the text files or if you managed to do so and therefore translation is all that's left to be done. I'm very interested in seeing this project finished and just got excited seeing these recent posts that look like progress might actually be being made. Thanks!

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Re: ~ The Homeland Project ~

Postby [krom] » Thu Oct 13, 2016 8:11 pm

Lockdown555 wrote:So I just recently stumbled across this game and consequently this forum, sorry for the possibly dumb question but are your translations actually patchable into the game at this point? I know extracting things had been a sticking point for a long time and just wanted to know if you managed to do so and if these translations are just for when someone figures out how to extract the text files or if you managed to do so and therefore translation is all that's left to be done. I'm very interested in seeing this project finished and just got excited seeing these recent posts that look like progress might actually be being made. Thanks!

Hi Lockdown555,
Yes the GC iso file is directly patchable using xdelta3, or by using the bass src I have provided, full instructions are here:
https://github.com/PeterLemon/GC/tree/master/Translate

T1GWBJAH wrote:Awesome to see the work you've done on this patch! noticed i had to rename the xdelta3 patch to just xdelta to be able to use the patch and from a quick try it seem to be working quite well!

Hi T1GWBJAH,
Thanks for testing, I renamed those files to .xdelta3 to make sure people know to use xdelta 3 to patch the files, I had a friend who thought it was an xdelta 1 file, & it did not work for him...
I use command line utils myself to test the patches, & the extension has not been a problem for me, I'll decide whether to rename them to just .xdelta again, if too many people have problems.

I have decided to make my PayPal email live, if anyone wants to donate to the project you can donate to: krom@gbadev.org

Thanks for the help guys =D

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Re: ~ The Homeland Project ~

Postby Yohanov » Fri Oct 21, 2016 12:41 am

Can't wait till we can organise some homeland online game night with gcforever members. Also great for lupin III.

If you need fluent translators/proofreaders, have you tried contacting all the people that offered translation help in this thread, including putaan?
It always felt like this project was stuck because of the editing part and not the translating part.

Also you could do some help wanted ad on various forums such as romhacking or gbatemp .

I have mixed feelings about donations for these projects but I think I'll still make a donation coz I had lost hope and that saves me money from buying a JP cube anyways lol

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Re: ~ The Homeland Project ~

Postby [krom] » Sat Oct 22, 2016 2:32 pm

Hi Yohanov,
You make some great points!

Yohanov wrote:Can't wait till we can organise some homeland online game night with gcforever members. Also great for lupin III.
Yep it would be so cool to play with others online, this game is very interesting for that aspect!
I am a big Lupin III fan, so when I found out there was a JPN only GC Lupin game, I thought this was really ace.
The Lupin game was my 1st GC game I started translating, & it taught me howto edit banner GFX & banner information, & get a nice system up & running for direct ISO patching.
I told emu_kidid that I was messing around with GC translation stuff, & he pointed me to this forum, where I found out about all the Homeland stuff.
I found it so strange that many of these amazing games had not been translated yet!!
It was emu_kidid who suggested I try out translating Homeland, so you have him to thank for helping me start this project ;)

Yohanov wrote:If you need fluent translators/proofreaders, have you tried contacting all the people that offered translation help in this thread, including putaan?
I have not contacted Puutan yet, that would be a really great idea, I do not even know if he has seen my stuff yet... I'll send him a PM to see what he thinks.

Yohanov wrote:It always felt like this project was stuck because of the editing part and not the translating part.
Yep I reckon you are right, the text editing would be pretty hard to automate, as there are different styles of text to deal with...
Some text is directly patchable using ASCII English in place of the SHIFT-JIS Japanese, but some text is only patchable with SHIFT-JIS English characters over the top (depending on the font used in game).
I might make a tutorial here, on my exact process of translating, so anyone with some free time could help out =D

Yohanov wrote:Also you could do some help wanted ad on various forums such as romhacking or gbatemp.
I have not thought of doing this yet, it is in a pretty early stage of development, I may resort to this in the future.

Yohanov wrote:I have mixed feelings about donations for these projects but I think I'll still make a donation coz I had lost hope and that saves me money from buying a JP cube anyways lol
Me too, I have never asked for donations before for anything I have done, & have always wanted todo stuff for free...
The only reason I have put a donation link up is that it was requested by some people.
I would like to stress that I only want people to donate if they can afford to, I would hate for someone to donate to me & have to miss out on something else they were saving up for :(
Any donations will make me concentrate on this Homeland translation, rather than working on any other projects I have going on atm.
At this current point I have received 1 donation, & I am very grateful for that =D

Anyway thanks for your thoughts, this is easily becoming the most popular translation project I have ever started, it's so great to see people are interested.

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Re: ~ The Homeland Project ~

Postby rayman » Tue Oct 25, 2016 4:49 am

[krom] wrote:
Yohanov wrote:It always felt like this project was stuck because of the editing part and not the translating part.
Yep I reckon you are right, the text editing would be pretty hard to automate, as there are different styles of text to deal with...
Some text is directly patchable using ASCII English in place of the SHIFT-JIS Japanese, but some text is only patchable with SHIFT-JIS English characters over the top (depending on the font used in game).
I might make a tutorial here, on my exact process of translating, so anyone with some free time could help out =D

I want to make sure you're aware of Atlas, a program by Klarth. http://www.romhacking.net/utilities/224/

Assuming that the ASCII-allowed and ASCII-banned text is distinguished somehow on the original disc, it should be possible to make Atlas do the dirty work. Or you could write everything as normal ASCII and have Atlas always convert it to shift-JIS.

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Re: ~ The Homeland Project ~

Postby Yohanov » Tue Oct 25, 2016 6:10 am

You can also try contacting Puutan from his site mail form http://form1.fc2.com/form/?id=555635

Yeah it would be great if you could do a tutorial, or even just record yourself doing the editing.

There is also giftpia that looks like a good game and a translation was already made but there is no patch yet so that would be a good project for someone who wanna get into gc translation hack : http://kirameki.altervista.org/eng/giftpia.php

GC has not a lot of jp exclusives but most of them are pretty interesting :p

But as you noticed the 6th console gen is not really popular with romhackers, most project are done on the 3rd and 4th gens and handhelds.

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Re: ~ The Homeland Project ~

Postby [krom] » Thu Oct 27, 2016 12:28 pm

Hi rayman
rayman wrote:I want to make sure you're aware of Atlas, a program by Klarth. http://www.romhacking.net/utilities/224/
I was not aware of this program, I will check it out.
rayman wrote:Assuming that the ASCII-allowed and ASCII-banned text is distinguished somehow on the original disc, it should be possible to make Atlas do the dirty work. Or you could write everything as normal ASCII and have Atlas always convert it to shift-JIS.
Unfortunately there is no distinguishing feature of the ASCII-banned text, it may be in certain blocks of text that all that blocks text is ASCII-banned text.
I will need todo more translation work to see if this is indeed the case...
Thanks for your help =D

Hi Yohanov,
Yohanov wrote:You can also try contacting Puutan from his site mail form http://form1.fc2.com/form/?id=555635
I have already given a PM to Puutan on this forum & he has replied to me. He is very busy right now, so can't go thru fixing all my text.
He did say if I get stuck on anything specific, he will try to help me out.
Yohanov wrote:Yeah it would be great if you could do a tutorial, or even just record yourself doing the editing.
Yep I think that would be a good idea, I'll try to make a tutorial of my workflow here soon.
Yohanov wrote:There is also giftpia that looks like a good game and a translation was already made but there is no patch yet so that would be a good project for someone who wanna get into gc translation hack : http://kirameki.altervista.org/eng/giftpia.php
Wow, I have tried out Giftpia, but I had no idea the text translation was available, thanks for showing me this link, I will check that out.
Yohanov wrote:GC has not a lot of jp exclusives but most of them are pretty interesting :p
Yep this is the reason why I wanted to try my hand at translating some of these games, there are some real gems on the GC!
Yohanov wrote:But as you noticed the 6th console gen is not really popular with romhackers, most project are done on the 3rd and 4th gens and handhelds.
Yep I noticed this, but I think in the future we will see many more translations on these later systems.

Anyway take care guys, I'll let you know anything new I do right here.

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Re: ~ The Homeland Project ~

Postby Yohanov » Thu Nov 17, 2016 6:43 am

Hey Krom, google trad recently updated to "neural network", and apparently the quality of the japanese>english translation has improved a lot.

Did you feel the difference ? I'm curious to know your opinion. I wonder if now google trad can be good enough for project like this, for games that have relatively simple japanese. Using google then polishing the english trad.

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Re: ~ The Homeland Project ~

Postby [krom] » Fri Nov 18, 2016 2:22 am

Hi Yohanov,

Yohanov wrote:Did you feel the difference ? I'm curious to know your opinion.
I have not checked that out yet, but I'll def be using it alot soon to see any improvments!

Oh btw I had a little go at starting Giftpia you can find it here: https://github.com/PeterLemon/GC/tree/master/Translate/Giftpia
Only the title screen, options, and save/load screens are translated...
It also seems to not have VWF out of the box, for ascii text.

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Re: ~ The Homeland Project ~

Postby moon_kitsune » Wed Mar 01, 2017 5:08 pm

i've been following this project for a few years now, and i noticed a grand leap in progress. this has got me excited because like most of us here ive been longing to play this in english. my question is, whats to be done and what has been done? are we waiting on tranlations for the game or did we finally get to the repacking? also @krom whats with the github link? thats got me super confused...

i would also like to point out that there are ways to play gc online using a wii.

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Re: ~ The Homeland Project ~

Postby Yohanov » Mon Mar 06, 2017 5:12 pm

moon_kitsune wrote:whats with the github link? thats got me super confused...

The github link is where you can download the patch and apply it to the ISO... Current patch is only a partial translation.

moon_kitsune wrote:i would also like to point out that there are ways to play gc online using a wii.


You can't play homeland online with a wii right now, as devolution only emulates the modem adaptor (for online PSO) and the LAN BBA functions (for LAN mk/1080/kirby) but not the online BBA functions (needed for online Homeland).

On the devolution thread I asked tuedj if he thought he could add it but he said he wasn't interested by Homeland...
Well if we get the english patch done maybe he'll change his mind but didn't he make his stuff only work with original CDs? Kind of an issue to play a translation hack.

Maybe Nintendon't will suport online BBA someday but that's unlikely.

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Re: ~ The Homeland Project ~

Postby moon_kitsune » Thu Mar 09, 2017 10:18 pm

can i get a link to said partital patch and instruction as to how it is done?

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Re: ~ The Homeland Project ~

Postby Sierron » Thu Mar 09, 2017 11:10 pm

Would it be possible to make a cheat so the menu of the game is translated? I bought the game twice and this would make things easier. So far not a single game worked for me over SD, so at least that would be interesting.
Haha! I have two BBAs now :P | I also have HomeLand and PSO I&II

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Re: ~ The Homeland Project ~

Postby liquitt » Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:50 am

holy sh*t! i am so glad to see that somebody took over - basically. cool stuff happening i guess. i'll look into this asap!
trying to get back on the forums as well.

hi guys :P
please search before you ask - a lot has been discussed already!
(or use google with "site:gc-forever.com *term*")
http://is.gd/MDmZcr

we also have a wiki filled with knowledge
http://is.gd/dX58Rm

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Re: ~ The Homeland Project ~

Postby liquitt » Wed Mar 15, 2017 12:47 pm

dude, great job on that!
used xdelta for patching.
is the text weird like that just for me because i tested on dolphin or does that happen on real hardware as well?
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please search before you ask - a lot has been discussed already!
(or use google with "site:gc-forever.com *term*")
http://is.gd/MDmZcr

we also have a wiki filled with knowledge
http://is.gd/dX58Rm

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Re: ~ The Homeland Project ~

Postby Aleron Ives » Wed Mar 15, 2017 6:20 pm

Text problems in Dolphin are usually solved by creating a game ini file in the User/GameSettings folder for the game you're playing and putting

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[Video_Settings]
SafeTextureCacheColorSamples = 0

in it. The texture cache can mess up text in many games if you don't do this.

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Re: ~ The Homeland Project ~

Postby Streetwalker » Wed Mar 15, 2017 8:43 pm

This looks like a kerning issue due to using a variable width font even though the game is expecting a fixed width font (as most eastern fonts are).


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