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Well it's also because I now own a Qoob Pro (broke the bank a bit) and would like to work with it.
It's the ProASIC. The .qcb files are encrypted/encoded in some way. You can make your own .qcb files without encryption (just the standard IPL encryption) and those work so it's probably a mix of the hardware doing something + the PPC code.Undead Sega wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 9:21 pmWell it's also because I now own a Qoob Pro (broke the bank a bit) and would like to work with it.
About the bios again, it is encrypted?
And is it the ProASIC chip that does the decrypting? Or the other IC chips perhaps?
Ah so it is the ProASIC that does the decrypting.emu_kidid wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 9:28 pmIt's the ProASIC. The .qcb files are encrypted/encoded in some way. You can make your own .qcb files without encryption (just the standard IPL encryption) and those work so it's probably a mix of the hardware doing something + the PPC code.Undead Sega wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 9:21 pmWell it's also because I now own a Qoob Pro (broke the bank a bit) and would like to work with it.
About the bios again, it is encrypted?
And is it the ProASIC chip that does the decrypting? Or the other IC chips perhaps?
If you want to put Swiss on there as the first thing that boots, or iplboot on there, both are possible.
Yes I mean .GCB files. I've made .GCB files. You can find one here for iplboot: https://github.com/redolution/iplboot/releases that will allow you to boot a DOL at startup from an SD card.Undead Sega wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:36 amAh so it is the ProASIC that does the decrypting.
I think you might mean the .gcb file.
IF this file was decrypted or reversed engineered, it could then be placed into other IC chip I suppose?
You imply that people has made their own .gcb files and placed it into the Qoob Pro??
Not interested in Swiss I'm afraid, I never understood it's hype. I really like the features that the Qoob provides.
I'm sooo confused, so you made your own Qoob files? That of is identical to the original and not encrypted??emu_kidid wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:59 amYes I mean .GCB files. I've made .GCB files. You can find one here for iplboot: https://github.com/redolution/iplboot/releases that will allow you to boot a DOL at startup from an SD card.Undead Sega wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:36 amAh so it is the ProASIC that does the decrypting.
I think you might mean the .gcb file.
IF this file was decrypted or reversed engineered, it could then be placed into other IC chip I suppose?
You imply that people has made their own .gcb files and placed it into the Qoob Pro??
Not interested in Swiss I'm afraid, I never understood it's hype. I really like the features that the Qoob provides.
Do you realise that Swiss has just about all features that the Qoob Pro BIOS has and more?
I'm saying their specific BIOS (.GCB) is encrypted beyond the standard IPL XOR used. They didn't want people decrypting it completely. If you make one using the standard IPL algorithm then it's fine and it will boot, this is how you can put your own custom BIOS on the qoob. I've been running IPLboot on mine for years and just load things over my USB Gecko to it for dev purposes. You could run iplboot, have an SD card and boot to Swiss immediately.Undead Sega wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:48 amI'm sooo confused, so you made your own Qoob files? That of is identical to the original and not encrypted??
Swiss can boot from DVD if you're into physical media, it can boot from DVD-R and whatever too. It can even browse and launch DOL files from the Qoob Flash. It also has the most comprehensive support for video mode patches and supports most if not all storage devices you can connect to a GameCube.Undead Sega wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:48 amI didn't think Swiss had the features of Qoob, I saw the two feature sets of the two and they didn't match. Mind you I'm still a physical media kind of person. The SD card launcher doesn't appeal to me much
It's not worth it, the Qoob BIOS is very outdated and there's no source. I suggest you try Swiss using any means you can before you pursue decrypting an outdated closed source BIOS from 2005.Undead Sega wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:48 amAnyways, if we can get the Qoob Pro 1.3c bios reversed engineered, then the world is our oyster I believe?
It is my understanding that there's no available source code for the Qoob (please correct me if I am wrong).
Hi, with this and a SD Gecko can i boot directly to Swiss? I have the Qoob SX version. Thanks in advance.toxic9 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:28 pmI hope you don't mind, I have just made a little change to your ELF! Now it shows the text "QOOB SX iplboot upgrade" instead of "QOOB SX upgrade to 1.3c" which it not true!
QOOB_SX_IPLBOOT_UPGRADE.jpg
I also build an ISO everyone can burn on DVD and upgrade:
QOOB_SX_IPLBOOT_UPGRADE_ISO.rar
iplboot r5.2(Jun 16, 2018) is the last compiled version. but if the version in the image works for you use that.schooluser wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:22 pmMan this place seems to be jumping compared to a while back...
So does anyone have a ready made iso file with the latest qoobSX iplboot on it so I can just download that, burn it, and pop it into my gamecube and update to IPLboot?
I saw the post by toxic9 but is that actually the latest version?
Thank you!PlatypusWithCheese wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:58 pmiplboot r5.2(Jun 16, 2018) is the last compiled version. but if the version in the image works for you use that.
the current version of the code for IPLboot with SD2SP2 support can't fit into the qoob SX chip.
i would say put swiss on a disc and boot using that. any new versions can be put on an sd card and be named boot.dol and swiss on disc will automatically boot that.
That's a shame I would've thought someone by now would've decrypted it and make modifications (probably to have stuff that Swiss is doing), probably that was the idea if that was possible all those years back?emu_kidid wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 2:40 amI'm saying their specific BIOS (.GCB) is encrypted beyond the standard IPL XOR used. They didn't want people decrypting it completely. If you make one using the standard IPL algorithm then it's fine and it will boot, this is how you can put your own custom BIOS on the qoob. I've been running IPLboot on mine for years and just load things over my USB Gecko to it for dev purposes. You could run iplboot, have an SD card and boot to Swiss immediately.Undead Sega wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:48 amI'm sooo confused, so you made your own Qoob files? That of is identical to the original and not encrypted??
I think you may have misunderstood me, I'm into physical media as in I like to boot games from discs, and not referring to Swiss, I don't like the idea of having the disc in and use SD cards. Is there no way to have Swiss boot without having to use disc and straight from a modchip by any chance? (just like the Qoob).Swiss can boot from DVD if you're into physical media, it can boot from DVD-R and whatever too. It can even browse and launch DOL files from the Qoob Flash. It also has the most comprehensive support for video mode patches and supports most if not all storage devices you can connect to a GameCube.Undead Sega wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:48 amI didn't think Swiss had the features of Qoob, I saw the two feature sets of the two and they didn't match. Mind you I'm still a physical media kind of person. The SD card launcher doesn't appeal to me much
So there is no source code for the Qoob?It's not worth it, the Qoob BIOS is very outdated and there's no source. I suggest you try Swiss using any means you can before you pursue decrypting an outdated closed source BIOS from 2005.Undead Sega wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:48 amAnyways, if we can get the Qoob Pro 1.3c bios reversed engineered, then the world is our oyster I believe?
It is my understanding that there's no available source code for the Qoob (please correct me if I am wrong).
Swiss and other tools have long superseded the functionality of the Qoob BIOS hence no interest in decrypting it.Undead Sega wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 1:39 amThat's a shame I would've thought someone by now would've decrypted it and make modifications (probably to have stuff that Swiss is doing), probably that was the idea if that was possible all those years back?
You can get something like the HyperBoot mod and then use iplboot on it as the BIOS which will load Swiss from an SD card.Undead Sega wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:48 amI think you may have misunderstood me, I'm into physical media as in I like to boot games from discs, and not referring to Swiss, I don't like the idea of having the disc in and use SD cards. Is there no way to have Swiss boot without having to use disc and straight from a modchip by any chance? (just like the Qoob).
Nope, no source for Qoob, it's closed source and now 15 years old, everything Qoob achieved at the time has been done again in Swiss, and is open sourced.
Great, Swiss is somewhat actively maintained so please create an issue (on github) for anything you feel is lacking or broken.Undead Sega wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:48 amI have looked into Swiss and I do like a couple of things that it's able to do.
So it is my understanding that you always need a disc in the drive to boot Swiss?emu_kidid wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 2:54 amSwiss and other tools have long superseded the functionality of the Qoob BIOS hence no interest in decrypting it.Undead Sega wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 1:39 amThat's a shame I would've thought someone by now would've decrypted it and make modifications (probably to have stuff that Swiss is doing), probably that was the idea if that was possible all those years back?
You can get something like the HyperBoot mod and then use iplboot on it as the BIOS which will load Swiss from an SD card.Undead Sega wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:48 amI think you may have misunderstood me, I'm into physical media as in I like to boot games from discs, and not referring to Swiss, I don't like the idea of having the disc in and use SD cards. Is there no way to have Swiss boot without having to use disc and straight from a modchip by any chance? (just like the Qoob).
Nope, no source for Qoob, it's closed source and now 15 years old, everything Qoob achieved at the time has been done again in Swiss, and is open sourced.
Great, Swiss is somewhat actively maintained so please create an issue (on github) for anything you feel is lacking or broken.Undead Sega wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:48 amI have looked into Swiss and I do like a couple of things that it's able to do.
)This one got me thinking, especially the second point you've made.
No, I said current alternatives only offer forwarder to launch off an SD card (except the third, where the drive replacement alter the "normal behavior" of the Cube, still, it loads oof an SD card too, at the end.Undead Sega wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:19 pmThis one got me thinking, especially the second point you've made.
Are you saying that you can put Swiss on a modchip (i.e. boots straight to Swiss OS) and play games from discs?
Well I so happen to have a IPL mod chip being the Qoob Pro, it took me a while to obtain one at a bit of a price too (however that's because it was already installed inside a gamecube, along with a full size disc shell). I've already looked at the Hyperboot, I'm not too keen on it myself unfortunatelybadsector wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:02 amAll the IPL mod chips they are mostly unavailable. Whenever mega is shipping Hyperboot that would be your best friend: https://www.badassconsoles.com/gamecube/
I'm a bit confused, do you mean to boot games off an SD card? Or for Swiss to boot off an SD card??Papy.G wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 1:49 pmNo, I said current alternatives only offer forwarder to launch off an SD card (except the third, where the drive replacement alter the "normal behavior" of the Cube, still, it loads oof an SD card too, at the end.Undead Sega wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:19 pmThis one got me thinking, especially the second point you've made.
Are you saying that you can put Swiss on a modchip (i.e. boots straight to Swiss OS) and play games from discs?
Anyways, it isn't recommended to run SWISS off a chip flash, since it is updated every now and then, and flashing a chip is not as easy as replacing a file on an SD card, plus it has a limited write operations and you may shorten its lifespan doing so.
Well couldn't replace the flash memory for a bigger sized one?Papy.G wrote: ↑Wed Jan 22, 2020 8:49 pmI don't know if many (if one ever) chips have enough memory to put SWISS in its current version/release. Burning an update disc to flash each release may be quite useless if you can flash straight from an SD card as well. There again you'd better just launch SWISS off this very SD.
Tested with viper 39VF020 to replace 39VF010 not workingwebhdx wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:21 amPapy.G: Qoob SX has dedicated parallel flash memory chip. It's possible to replace it but I'm not sure if it will be usable. I bet flashing tool is checking the file size so it might be required to use external flash programmer. Same story goes for Viper GC, if I'm not mistaken two use the same flash chip (SST 39VF010). I was actually thinking about doing it but first I need to go through other DIY Projects.