Wii64 2012

[emu_kidid]

I don't believe we've worded anything incorrectly on the website apart from perhaps not putting out definition of "soon" up there in the article. I try to stress where I can that "soon" is not a fixed period of time when it comes to homebrew development. In our view, soon means, when we get enough work done in our limited free time, we'll look at the issue. Most of the time we merely find enough free time to discuss what we'll do to fix an issue, then find an issue in the solution and have to go back to discussing/etc. It's very rarely that we'll actually put "pen to paper" (code to file), and thus, progress is sparse, especially on big things like newly ported graphics plugins or core rewrites.

[reversalmushroom]

I have an issue with emulatemii.com, too. It won't post my comments. I enter my comment and then it tells me that my comment is "awaiting moderation", but it never actually gets posted. Does "awaiting moderation" mean that someone actually has to read it and put it onto the site? Who's job is it to do this? And is emulatemii your website, or does someone else own the server? The articles have been known to fill up with spam from time to time, so why is that person reading the spam and then inputting it underneath the articles? WAAH! WAAH! Why won't it WAAH!? Why is it that they'd rather go through the tedium of posting other people's spam into their own website than post one of my comments, for no other reason than that I wrote it? I say the same things as everyone else so why are my comments worse than the spam?! Do you have any idea how hurtful that is? Or is it because I'm not a member of emulatemii? I tried to join emulatemii so I could post comments, but I can't find a link to register. Where is it? I see the "login" link, but I don't see the "register" link.

PS - Speaking of emulatemii.com, computerboy had this to say:

"The team has split.

Other than Emulator Kid, no one comes on IRC anymore.

Its all over, guys. Like Nintendo Wii64 AM DOOMED."

Is that part about you splitting up true? Or is computerboy a liar?

[Extrems]

[emu_kidid]

Yes, we own emulatemii.com (collectively, sepp256, tehpola and I). We moderate the comments from first time posters (I guess we haven't moderated any of yours yet as there's about 15,000 pending (99% is spam)). The reason we turned moderating on was for the spam to be caught and most of it seems to be. It's very time consuming to keep the site clean so we let it go then clean it up every few months - especially given that users would rather see a new release for the emulator rather than a clean site.

And yes, as Extrems showed, we're all on IRC except me, I'm in #gc-forever and occasionally in #WiiN64. I chat with tehpola and sepp256 daily so I don't see how we've "disbanded"....

[reversalmushroom]

Well, if it'll be an inconvenience, then I don't want you to add my comments. I guess for the rest of my life I'll just type my comments in and delude myself into thinking that I'm really interacting with other people until the unsuccessful attempts at denial promote an unhealthy dichotomy within me that drives me to suicide... But in all seriousness, it's fine. You don't have to do it.

[Cubelover]

Well, no wonder why emulatemii suffers from spam. There is no reCAPTCHA or any other CAPTCHA at all.
Also you can try this: http://akismet.com/

[ar15mex]

Hi all,

First of all, I do not post often, but I visit every now and then this website. After tehskeen was ended my best places to obtain wii hombrew news is this place and and wiibrew. Now into the main response to some of you,

I believe that emukidd, tehpola, and sepp have been too kind with all of you. This emulator that they are working is totally FREE OF CHARGE, and has non-profitable purposes. Unlike his other products like IDE-EXI that you PAY FOR IT; we can actually complain due to the fact that some of you PAY for it. Its like when you buy a TV and it comes defective you can send it back. Here is totally differen business guys. If you want this product (the emulator) that is FREE not to mention OPEN SOURCE you can DO IT ON YOUR OWN, and stop bitching about it. Secondly, If you keep complaning you MAY discourge the developers. I know its been a pain for the waiting but you should never put your hopes on homebrew developers. Sure... you may deposit contributions to the cause, but that does not guarantee the project.

Just get a N64. Pawn shops have them a 29.00 or less. Thats what I did, I have a few games from ebay, and I'm totally happy with it. I am waiting for the emulator but not with the same hype.

As a last point its sad to see what it became of this topic. I was hoping to see more discussion on the emulator side, than bitching about the development. THankfully Not64 is out there, and I've been playing it lately.

Cheers

[APE992]

But self-righteous self-entitlement is the God given right of everyone unable to code their way out of a paper bag!

Or was I misinformed?

[megalomaniac]

But self-righteous self-entitlement is the God given right of everyone unable to code their way out of a paper bag!

Or was I misinformed?

i think you may have eaten too many of those funky looking chickens

[liquitt]

Hi all,

First of all, I do not post often, but I visit every now and then this website. After tehskeen was ended my best places to obtain wii hombrew news is this place and and wiibrew. Now into the main response to some of you,

I believe that emukidd, tehpola, and sepp have been too kind with all of you. This emulator that they are working is totally FREE OF CHARGE, and has non-profitable purposes. Unlike his other products like IDE-EXI that you PAY FOR IT; we can actually complain due to the fact that some of you PAY for it. Its like when you buy a TV and it comes defective you can send it back. Here is totally differen business guys. If you want this product (the emulator) that is FREE not to mention OPEN SOURCE you can DO IT ON YOUR OWN, and stop bitching about it. Secondly, If you keep complaning you MAY discourge the developers. I know its been a pain for the waiting but you should never put your hopes on homebrew developers. Sure... you may deposit contributions to the cause, but that does not guarantee the project.

Just get a N64. Pawn shops have them a 29.00 or less. Thats what I did, I have a few games from ebay, and I'm totally happy with it. I am waiting for the emulator but not with the same hype.

As a last point its sad to see what it became of this topic. I was hoping to see more discussion on the emulator side, than bitching about the development. THankfully Not64 is out there, and I've been playing it lately.

Cheers

thank you

[adt1340]

See I agree with ar15mex, as the developers owe us nothing for they have already released awesome things in the past. However, I can also understand why ppl get frustrated. I personally don't believe it's do to lack of the coding updates, but rather that there has (basically) been no official message update to the community (some of which have donated to the project) in ~6 months!

Also I totally agree with ar15mex, as I'm sad to see what this topic has become.

[reversalmushroom]

emu_kidid did give us an update. He said that it would be done "soon", but that "soon" means that if they were to actually work on it nonstop, but since they don't have too much time to work on it progress will be slow. I for one would say that the longer it takes to come out, the better. Think of it this way: if it still can't play you're favorite games properly you're gonna have to wait so long for the next update. And the work for that version won't even begin until they get done with the next version of WiiSX (they like to take turns). The wait might be excruciating but it'll increase the chances that they get it right this time. If Wii64 lags AT ALL I'm not gonna use it; I only play with emulators that run flawlessly.

[Ashen]

Dude, seriously... What kind of reply is that. Its people who make stupid comments like this that DEMOTIVATE authors of fine software such as this.

Bottom line is wiisx/wii64 team or any other author of any emulator out there, dont OWE you jack shit. They release the stuff they create out of the goodness to share what they've done with others.

Seriously, I want to punch you in the face.

[emu_kidid]

Seriously, I want to punch you in the face.

haha well said

[reversalmushroom]

Whoa, what post were you reading? If that was supposed to be a joke it wasn't funny. I was talking about why it's better to have patience and yeah, I was pointing out how long it's been because I'm really excited about it, but not once was I like "why don't they go faster so I can play it?" I can see how that joke I made about fans dying before Wii64 comes out could be taken the wrong way since you don't know me or my sense of humor, which is why it's not there anymore. Sometimes I do things without realizing how stupid they are, and then when it hits me for the rest of my life I have to live with the knowledge that I actually did those things and I actually used to think that they made sense. I know Wii64 doesn't belong to me. I know that they can work on it when they want to work on it. And I don't think that they're being lazy either. I believe that they're doing the best they can, and even if they weren't, I still wouldn't have any grounds to complain because like you so eloquently put it, they don't owe us anything, it belongs to them and them alone, and they're working on it out of the kindness of their hearts. What they're doing is a form of art that they selflessly create solely for our enjoyment. I thought I spelled that out for you last time. When I was remarking about the time it's taking to complete, I was saying it not out of selfishness, but as a statement of fact. Me complaining about them personally would be like if I said "emu_kidid needs to get off his @$$ and finish Wii64", which I wasn't doing at all. It is a fact that it has been over 2 years. Simply acknowledging this or pointing it out does not mean that I'm complaining about it, or even that I think badly of emu_kidid, sepp256, and tehpola. I was predicting that since Wii64 will have taken 2+ years to make, and WiiSX has a similar amount of work to be done, it will also take 2+ years to make. So logically the next Wii64 would come out roughly 6 years from now. It's like saying that since the NES came out in 1983, the SNES came out in 1990, the N64 came out in 1996, the Gamecube came out in 2001, the Wii came out in 2006, and the WiiU will come out in 2012, that logically the console after the WiiU will come out in 2018. Or does that prediction offend you? I think 6 years is a good reason to hope that the games play correctly in this version. And yeah, I wish Wii64 would be finished, but who doesn't? Lots of people do. I think even the developers wish it was done, and there is nothing wrong with me wishing for Wii64. That's all I was doing. That is not the same thing as calling the Wii64 team lazy and being ungrateful, which evidently you think I did. Plenty of other people have expressed their excitement in these threads and you didn't say anything to them. Was there actually a reason that you decided to pick on just me and no one else? Or that you decided that it's okay for other people to want Wii64 but it's not okay for me, reversalmushroom, to want Wii64? Based on your reaction I seriously think that maybe you're illiterate and you had to have someone read my comment to you and then type a response for you. You need to stick with what you're good at which is building portable Gamecubes because it's clearly not your critical thinking skills. Or Your manners.

PS - I hate laggy emulators. It's nothing against emu_kidid, sepp256, and tehpola. It's just that I can't stand lagging gameplay. It doesn't mean that I think they did a bad job, or that I'm angry with them because it's not the emulator that I wish it was; it's a personal choice. I know there isn't anything wrong with Wii64 not yet being finished, and I will gladly wait until it is.

PPS - And shame on you for encouraging his behavior, emukidid.

[KirovAir]

The points you are getting at don't make any sense. It's a big story of nonsense. I'd happily believe you are very young (or, retarded) but the correct English vocabulary is keeping me in doubt.

[Metroid]

Whoa, what post were you reading? If that was supposed to be a joke it wasn't funny. I was talking about why it's better to have patience and yeah, I was pointing out how long it's been because I'm really excited about it, but not once was I like "why don't they go faster so I can play it?" I can see how that joke I made about fans dying before Wii64 comes out could be taken the wrong way since you don't know me or my sense of humor, which is why it's not there anymore. Sometimes I do things without realizing how stupid they are, and then when it hits me for the rest of my life I have to live with the knowledge that I actually did those things and I actually used to think that they made sense. I know Wii64 doesn't belong to me. I know that they can work on it when they want to work on it. And I don't think that they're being lazy either. I believe that they're doing the best they can, and even if they weren't, I still wouldn't have any grounds to complain because like you so eloquently put it, they don't owe us anything, it belongs to them and them alone, and they're working on it out of the kindness of their hearts. What they're doing is a form of art that they selflessly create solely for our enjoyment. I thought I spelled that out for you last time. When I was remarking about the time it's taking to complete, I was saying it not out of selfishness, but as a statement of fact. Me complaining about them personally would be like if I said "emu_kidid needs to get off his @$$ and finish Wii64", which I wasn't doing at all. It is a fact that it has been over 2 years. Simply acknowledging this or pointing it out does not mean that I'm complaining about it, or even that I think badly of emu_kidid, sepp256, and tehpola. I was predicting that since Wii64 will have taken 2+ years to make, and WiiSX has a similar amount of work to be done, it will also take 2+ years to make. So logically the next Wii64 would come out roughly 6 years from now. It's like saying that since the NES came out in 1983, the SNES came out in 1990, the N64 came out in 1996, the Gamecube came out in 2001, the Wii came out in 2006, and the WiiU will come out in 2012, that logically the console after the WiiU will come out in 2018. Or does that prediction offend you? I think 6 years is a good reason to hope that the games play correctly in this version. And yeah, I wish Wii64 would be finished, but who doesn't? Lots of people do. I think even the developers wish it was done, and there is nothing wrong with me wishing for Wii64. That's all I was doing. That is not the same thing as calling the Wii64 team lazy and being ungrateful, which evidently you think I did. Plenty of other people have expressed their excitement in these threads and you didn't say anything to them. Was there actually a reason that you decided to pick on just me and no one else? Or that you decided that it's okay for other people to want Wii64 but it's not okay for me, reversalmushroom, to want Wii64? Based on your reaction I seriously think that maybe you're illiterate and you had to have someone read my comment to you and then type a response for you. You need to stick with what you're good at which is building portable Gamecubes because it's clearly not your critical thinking skills. Or Your manners.

PS - I hate laggy emulators. It's nothing against emu_kidid, sepp256, and tehpola. It's just that I can't stand lagging gameplay. It doesn't mean that I think they did a bad job, or that I'm angry with them because it's not the emulator that I wish it was; it's a personal choice. I know there isn't anything wrong with Wii64 not yet being finished, and I will gladly wait until it is.

PPS - And shame on you for encouraging his behavior, emukidid.

Just take it easy. The emulator have to take its time to get finished. emu_kidid and the gang don't prioritize the emulator because they got their lifes to take care of.

If you can't wait, then I suggest you to make your own emulator, and see how easy it is to make one and living your life (if you got one that is).

Take care!

[pr0ton]

Just maybe Ashen was referring to adt1340 . Only reversalmushroom has given his vision on how he perceives open source development, maybe an alternate vision, but not a demanding vision, to me at least..

"If Wii64 lags AT ALL I'm not gonna use it; I only play with emulators that run flawlessly.": that sounded a little irritated perhaps .

[Ashen]

Ah, no. No mistake, I was definately reffering to reversalheads OP BEFORE he edited it to make it sound only slightly less demanding/annoying.

Honestly this thread has gone from already terrible to way worse and its got nowhere to go but down further. So yea, gonna lock this up. If anyone want to continue the pissing match it can be done in PM form.

Move along, move along.

[liquitt]

Thanks for locking this, i would've done the same, but i was on vacation. You guy need to seriously shut the hell up and nobody fucking cares if you will use the emulator or not.
I can definetly see how Ashen lost his temper, i'm close to that reading those shitty comments all the time.

Bottom line.

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