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Re: Not64 - an experimental modification

Postby the_randomizer » Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:15 am

New version released, but no change log? :shock:
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Re: Not64 - an experimental modification

Postby megalomaniac » Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:25 am

the_randomizer wrote:New version released, but no change log? Really?


change log posted here
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Re: Not64 - an experimental modification

Postby Nintendo Maniac 64 » Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:30 am

the_randomizer wrote:New version released, but no change log? Really?

We'll just have to do like Devolution and figure out the differences ourselves. ;)

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Re: Not64 - an experimental modification

Postby the_randomizer » Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:04 am

moo.
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Re: Not64 - an experimental modification

Postby megalomaniac » Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:11 am

haha good one
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Re: Not64 - an experimental modification

Postby the_randomizer » Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:13 am

megalomaniac wrote:haha good one


I have to go now, my planet needs me.
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Re: Not64 - an experimental modification

Postby megalomaniac » Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:50 am

the_randomizer wrote:You know what's also funny? Me reporting that pastie.org thread you linked to as verbal abuse



well...then i guess you better report this post too...

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Re: Not64 - an experimental modification

Postby the_randomizer » Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:46 pm

The newest version uses NAND as a means for virtual memory for a performance boost, as I just found out. Correct me if I'm wrong, but since NAND has a limited no. of reads and writes, this will only serve to wear out the limited no. of read/write times that much faster, would it not?. Is there a performance gain in Hybrid Heaven, what about the ladder climbing bug?
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Re: Not64 - an experimental modification

Postby Extrems » Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:09 pm

Don't turn on your Wii, you'll wear out the NAND.

the_randomizer wrote:what about the ladder climbing bug; if it works in interpreter, is that bug really that hard to fix in dynamic recompiler mode?

I could fix it, by dropping the floating-point unavailable speedhack.

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Re: Not64 - an experimental modification

Postby the_randomizer » Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:17 pm

Extrems wrote:Don't turn on your Wii, you'll wear out the NAND.

the_randomizer wrote:what about the ladder climbing bug; if it works in interpreter, is that bug really that hard to fix in dynamic recompiler mode?

I could fix it, by dropping the floating-point unavailable speed hack.


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Re: Not64 - an experimental modification

Postby Nintendo Maniac 64 » Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:50 pm

Extrems wrote:Don't turn on your Wii, you'll wear out the NAND.

How does just turning on your Wii write anything to the NAND?

Anyway, I'm somewhat confused about what this new function does. Does it load large roms into the NAND due to a lack of RAM on the Wii?

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Re: Not64 - an experimental modification

Postby the_randomizer » Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:52 pm

Nintendo Maniac 64 wrote:
Extrems wrote:Don't turn on your Wii, you'll wear out the NAND.

How does just turning on your Wii write anything to the NAND?

Anyway, I'm somewhat confused about what this new function does. Does it load large roms into the NAND due to a lack of RAM on the Wii?


Don't ask him that, you'll only piss him off. ;)
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Re: Not64 - an experimental modification

Postby Extrems » Tue Feb 05, 2013 5:09 pm

Nintendo Maniac 64 wrote:Anyway, I'm somewhat confused about what this new function does. Does it load large roms into the NAND due to a lack of RAM on the Wii?

Previously, large ROMs were swapped out from the source.
Using NAND reduces latency and improves reliability.
It also allow for larger compressed ROMs.

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Re: Not64 - an experimental modification

Postby Nintendo Maniac 64 » Tue Feb 05, 2013 5:12 pm

So uh... it is impossible to read from the rom directly on USB and/or SD?

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Re: Not64 - an experimental modification

Postby jetpack16 » Wed Feb 06, 2013 3:26 pm

If this has already been addresssed, please point me in the right direction. There has been an issue going on with the D-Pad emulation on the Classic Controller. The Right direction also activates the bottom C button when pressed. Is there a fix for this? It's been going on since the official release of Wii64 and it makes any game that requires the D pad nearly impossible to play. A fix for this would be greatly appreciated since I now only own a Wii-U and no longer have the option of using a GC controller. Thanks!

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Re: Not64 - an experimental modification

Postby ShadowOne333 » Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:20 am

In the name of almost every Not64 user, I thank you, Extrems, for keeping this emulator alive and tgrying to depure and polish the code to make more games a little more playable.

Since the official one seems to be in an hibernation state, this one is the only updates we get, and I am really thankful for that.

Keep up the good work, Extrems. :)

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Re: Not64 - an experimental modification

Postby nakata » Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:58 am

Seconded!
Thanks to extrems (and the wii64 team) for all the progress they have accomplished so far.
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Re: Not64 - an experimental modification

Postby the_randomizer » Thu Feb 07, 2013 9:21 pm

nakata wrote:Seconded!
Thanks to extrems (and the wii64 team) for all the progress they have accomplished so far.



That "and the wii64 team" bit was a joke right? They haven't updated the damn thing in over two years. Surely, all your credit should go to extrems and not the Wii64 team.
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Re: Not64 - an experimental modification

Postby nakata » Thu Feb 07, 2013 9:47 pm

No, i'm not joking. It would be disrespectful (from my part at least) not to recognize their original work. They provided the foundation, which Extrems has done a stellar job improving so far.
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Re: Not64 - an experimental modification

Postby emu_kidid » Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:13 pm

*throws fuel to the fire*

the_randomizer come on, get over it already... we've made improvements, just nothing worthy of a release, you know how it goes!
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Re: Not64 - an experimental modification

Postby ShadowOne333 » Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:20 pm

emu_kidid wrote:*throws fuel to the fire*

the_randomizer come on, get over it already... we've made improvements, just nothing worthy of a release, you know how it goes!


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Re: Not64 - an experimental modification

Postby Nintendo Maniac 64 » Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:28 pm

emu_kidid wrote:we've made improvements, just nothing worthy of a release, you know how it goes!

So I presume that applies to WiiSX as well, and therefore that means Classic Controller Pro support hasn't been fixed yet?

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Re: Not64 - an experimental modification

Postby emu_kidid » Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:33 pm

CC Pro support being the joystick issues? Those were fixed in libOGC so that's automatically "fixed" by definition when we make a new release.

WiiSX received improvements behind the scenes but not nearly as many as wii64 has.
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Re: Not64 - an experimental modification

Postby Nintendo Maniac 64 » Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:39 pm

Yes, the joystick issues. To me that would seem like enough to make a bugfix release, like x.x.1 release.

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Re: Not64 - an experimental modification

Postby emu_kidid » Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:43 pm

True, the problem is our changes were made in bulk and a few things would be less stable than the released code/etc.
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