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want First build IDE-EXI

Post by hpxhpx » Wed Oct 20, 2021 6:37 am

Dear Sirs

i have sd2sp2 and SD Gecko + QOOB mod for my NGC and i just got to know this IDE-EXI project in few days ago
it seems a very interesting project, so i want try to build this IDE-EXI sample

My prepared
1.download IDE-EXI project file "IDE-EXIdesignfiles.7z"from --> https://www.gc-forever.com/forums/viewt ... f=23&t=538
then i can use the Gerber file for build some PCB, and follow the BOM list for prepare elec components , Hand soldering components on PCB
2. follow the guide of "jtag Construction" for build Jtag programming cable and follow the guild of "Programming the CPLD" for programming XC95144XL(got from Sir "emu_kidid" post)
(or use USB TO Jtag adaptor for programming XC95144xl Clip)

attached all files what i prepared , is it enough for start the IDE-EXI build ?, if you know any thing i missed ,please free feel for let me know and if you have any suggestion please free feel for propose

many thanks your help Sirs

BTW if you know other interesting project for NGC please share ,Appreciated
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Re: want First build IDE-EXI

Post by webhdx » Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:50 pm

You have everything needed, just use v2 source instead: https://www.gc-forever.com/forums/viewt ... =23&t=4843

For programming I recommend using xc3sprog and FT232H board, it's probably the cheapest USB based programmer out there.

I'm just hesitant to say wether I recommend building IDE-EXI yourself. If you are planning to use old, clunky IDE drives then you should know it's very inconvenient to use nowadays. Of course it's possible to use SATA drives with adapters but it ends up looking really bad with all the cable mess.
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Re: want First build IDE-EXI

Post by hpxhpx » Sat Oct 23, 2021 6:37 am

webhdx wrote:
Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:50 pm
You have everything needed, just use v2 source instead: https://www.gc-forever.com/forums/viewt ... =23&t=4843

For programming I recommend using xc3sprog and FT232H board, it's probably the cheapest USB based programmer out there.

I'm just hesitant to say wether I recommend building IDE-EXI yourself. If you are planning to use old, clunky IDE drives then you should know it's very inconvenient to use nowadays. Of course it's possible to use SATA drives with adapters but it ends up looking really bad with all the cable mess.

many thanks Sir,
Thank you your comments
then i will start for order some PCB first , if i got any problem on my build process i will share here , hope can get you help future

i have ordered some IDE TO SATA board as attached , hope it can be use for IDE-EXI to Sata HDD
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Re: want First build IDE-EXI

Post by hpxhpx » Tue Oct 26, 2021 10:19 am

i think it may help if any new guy want to build IDE-EXI so i want to share my building process here

26/Oct/2021: i received IDE-EXI PCB, but i still has not order programmer and Elec part, i will order it in coming few days
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Re: want First build IDE-EXI

Post by hpxhpx » Sat Nov 06, 2021 12:55 am

i got all the elec parts and two boards already soldered all components by hand
now waiting programmer for FW programming
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Re: want First build IDE-EXI

Post by webhdx » Sat Nov 06, 2021 5:21 pm

I'd recommend using flux and probably higher temperatures to make better connection. IDE header seems to be barely soldered in. Maybe consider posting in a single thread, no need to post photos in 3 different topics :)
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Re: want First build IDE-EXI

Post by hpxhpx » Thu Dec 09, 2021 11:25 am

Dears

i got problem for use IDE-EXI, Please any one help me you if have any idea
I finished my IDE-EXI board build but it can't working
use Xilinx DLC9LP usb programmer for programmed IDE-EXI-V2 and the programming was succeeded
my connection as the setup flow picture (NGC-->IDE-EXI Board-->80pins IDE cable-->IDE to SATA board-->HDD)
HDD Format FAT32, Copy Swiss 1086 to HDD

By the way ,my NGC can boot by sd2sp2

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Re: want First build IDE-EXI

Post by hpxhpx » Thu Dec 09, 2021 11:29 am

picture part2
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Re: want First build IDE-EXI

Post by hpxhpx » Thu Dec 09, 2021 11:30 am

picture part3
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Re: want First build IDE-EXI

Post by webhdx » Thu Dec 09, 2021 11:37 am

Your soldering looks really bad, you should work on the joints on the IDE connector. Does Swiss detect your IDE-EXI?
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Re: want First build IDE-EXI

Post by hpxhpx » Thu Dec 09, 2021 12:44 pm

Seems my IDE-EXI board can work now
i can see the HDD in swiss by boot from SP2(attached picture)

i think the swiss also can boot from IDE-EXI ,right?
i had copy swiss to HDD but still can't boot from IDE-EXI

where i can find the IDE-EXI use guide?
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Re: want First build IDE-EXI

Post by webhdx » Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:25 pm

At least the CPLD-EXI connection is working. Now you need to check if you can see the files on your HDD. There is no user guide because it's really simple. It works just like any other device, select it from device selection menu and choose ISO to run a game.

I'm not sure what you mean by "boot from IDE-EXI". It's not possible. If you have an IPL replacement modchip with something like iplboot then it's not compatible with IDE-EXI and you still have to boot Swiss from SD card.
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Re: want First build IDE-EXI

Post by hpxhpx » Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:41 pm

many thanks Webhdx

so i got to know now ,the IDE-EXI HDD just for stock the game ISO but can't working like SD2SP2 or SD Gecko for boot swiss from IDE-EXI HDD
now i can boot SWISS from SD2SP2 or QOOB IPL and then select device to IDE-EXI HDD for running Game ISO

thank you so much again Webhdx
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Re: want First build IDE-EXI

Post by hpxhpx » Mon Dec 27, 2021 2:40 pm

there have a problem if use QOOB IP boot and IDE-EXI HDD then can't use memory card
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