Shuriken USB V1+V2 support (CLOSED)

[andre104623]

I'm pulling all support for the shuriken USB because Happy_Bunny is cutting me off from all of his products. If he wants users to know how to use his USB gecko he can do it himself.

Money Refunded. Thanks

[andre104623]

you can use the software for the real USB gecko. you can download them from here viewtopic.php?f=4&t=98

[andre104623]

The shuriken V1 can't use most (ANY) of these programs but the V2 is perfect and everything works. Give me some time I will add more. If you were one of the unlucky few who bought the V1 (Me also) I'm sorry to break it to you but your going to have a lot of problems. When you use the V1 on the wii (which is your only way to use it) the only program I got to work is the custom made GeckoDotNet and for the most part it does work minus screenshots. But if your trying to push a cheat over to a game and it has more then 5 lines of code the game will freeze and not recover. 1-4 lines of code will work most of the time but sometimes it doesn't. It's very hit and miss for the V1 I'm not going to say it was a epic fail I will say it was a "oops" and Happy_Bunny made the V2 to fix all the Problems that the V1 had. What's the problem with it? The FTDI FT245BL chip is the problem and is the reason for the data loss. The USB gecko is supposed to have a FTDI FT245RL which you would think wouldn't be a big deal to replace the V1 with the right chip but after comparing the V1 to V2 I do think it would be impossible to solder the right chip on because the BL chip is square and the RL chip is rectangle. Also ID string the original USB gecko SE, FT245RL chip used a device ID string of "GECKUSB0", however the Shuriken USB V1 unit uses a standard USB to serial device ID string. This may cause issues depending upon how the PC software access the unit. If it uses the units serial port number instead of the devices ID string then the software will just work and it will be a 1:1 clone of the USB gecko SE. However if it uses the device's ID string to access the unit this will result in a device not connected message

V1:http://imageshack.com/a/img901/2479/nM3y5v.jpg

V2:

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[happy_bunny]

I'm not going to say it was a epic fail I will say it was a "oops" and Happy_Bunny made the V2 to fix all the Problems that the V1 had

I thought the FT245BL and FT245RL where basically the same minus the eeprom and I had some FT245BL so I designed the PCB with them in mind and they worked for me. However they are clearly not the same as the weirdness with the screen shot stuff shows, this is nothing to do the software and is directly related to the difference between FT245BL and FT245RL.

sorry guys

[andre104623]

I'm not going to say it was a epic fail I will say it was a "oops" and Happy_Bunny made the V2 to fix all the Problems that the V1 had

I thought the FT245BL and FT245RL where basically the same minus the eeprom and I had some FT245BL so I designed the PCB with them in mind and they worked for me. However they are clearly not the same as the weirdness with the screen shot stuff shows, this is nothing to do the software and is directly related to the difference between FT245BL and FT245RL.

sorry guys

I'm not flaming you or anything like that I just stating why the V1 has problems. The V2 is great and I have not had any problem so far. The data loss with screenshot isn't the only problem. The data loss also affects code dumping and poking code as well and is the reason I think the swiss server freezes up because I have tested swiss server with the V2 and now that problem is gone too.

[happy_bunny]

Nearly did another batch of v1 because the ft245bl is easier to solder but the screen shoot stuff was bugging me. I tried all sorts of software hacks to try and get the dam thing to display properly in the end i decided it was the chip and the only way to prove it was to change it hence v2 was created.

[andre104623]

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[megalomaniac]

I thought the FT245BL and FT245RL where basically the same minus the eeprom and I had some FT245BL so I designed the PCB with them in mind and they worked for me.

V1 worked for you, but which programs did you test to validate your work?
obviously not all programs were tested else you would have found the flaw in your component selection...
also, didnt you realize something was not right when you had to compile custom programs to work with your design??

[tueidj]

The reason for recompiling was because of the device ID (which programs don't even care about if they're written sensibly), using a device that doesn't support a custom ID would obviously require changes.
Possibly the programs that don't work correctly are driving the EXI slot at a higher frequency than what the gecko was designed for, which just happens to work (most of the time) with the 245RL. Basically if it works with wiiload+HBC it should work with any other program, unless that program is doing something it shouldn't.

[happy_bunny]

I think megalomaniac just likes to write negative stuff about my work i guess everyone needs a hobby

[novenary]

The reason for recompiling was because of the device ID (which programs don't even care about if they're written sensibly), using a device that doesn't support a custom ID would obviously require changes.

This. As far as I know, only the pc-side software had to be recompiled to properly detect the device.

He is right in the fact that you didn't test everything though. You clearly stated that yourself.

[tueidj]

Only _some_ pc-side programs - ones that used the FTDI libraries instead of generic com port communication. Which makes them non-portable, dependent on third-party drivers (which have very bad reputations due to killing clones) etc.

[megalomaniac]

I thought the FT245BL and FT245RL where basically the same minus the eeprom and I had some FT245BL so I designed the PCB with them in mind and they worked for me.

V1 worked for you, but which programs did you test to validate your work?
obviously not all programs were tested else you would have found the flaw in your component selection...
also, didnt you realize something was not right when you had to compile custom programs to work with your design??

I think megalomaniac just likes to write negative stuff about my work i guess everyone needs a hobby

how it is negative to ask about your testing methods and validation procedures?
you sold a "defective" product..
it was the buyers of your "defective" product that found incompatibilities with your design..
you identify the design flaw and redesigned the product using the proper component to eliminate the incompatibilities..


im not saying anything negative about your work, you have already done that.
i simply asked how you tested and validated before you started selling...

[happy_bunny]

In your eyes it was defective because your mind is clouded in negative thoughts

http://nipreston.com/new/project/how-to ... -emotions/

If we all chip in hopefully we can help you after all this is a support thread, its never that bad dude.

[andre104623]

No he isn't clouded he's right he is just more direct then me. I was going to sign on last night till I saw what was going on here. Yes the V1 is defective, flawed, failure whatever you want to call it is what it is a useless piece of plastic. When you marketed the V1 it was being sold as a clone of the USB gecko SE which it wasn't. The way I look at it if I didn't buy one and fully test it there would be nothing for the end-user to do with the V1 I'm I right or wrong. Even the most simple thing for it to do ( which was push a .dol by swiss server ) it failed. Bottom line it was a failure and your lucky that supportive people bought the V1 because if more people bought the V1 over say at GBAtemp.net lets just say the hate mail would be overflowing your mailbox. Anyway you made the V2 to fix the V1 problems which it did do so thank you for doing that.

But with all do respect Mega has given everyone here really cool ways to mod our cube's at a reasonable price with quality hardware that is fully tested before sale. For that I would never question his advice or judgement I'm sorry if this statement offense you in any way because on the other hand I know where your coming from and you make your stuff at a economy standpoint which in ways are good and in other ways are bad. Perfect example the attack board which yes great idea but completely pointless. Who is going to want a IPL replacement that requires the end-user to lift a pin something that all IPL replacement's got around also if your going to make a IPL replacement in year 2015 at least make it run swiss on flash. So it's a Ninjamod chip with even more limitations. I don't mean to blow up your spot or anything I told you already I would buy a couple of them but make them run swiss for best compatibility and ease of use.

The Shuriken Video is also a example of economy over features but that is a good idea for someone who doesn't want to spend $70 on a pluto board. But as I think about it when I was getting my cube ready for the shuriken video my monitor won't display 480i over HDMI so with OSD on the pluto board I can turn on linedoubler and use the 480i signal on my display. With the shuriken video I don't have this option so what's going to happen? I don't think I would be able to use it in my case and not having any sound kind of sucks also because thats a really cool feature that should be used in this design.

I'm just speaking my mind but I support both of your guys work and time you put in to everything just don't make me pick sides because I'm sorry happy_bunny but Mega has helped me a lot in the 1 1/2 years I have been here and is the reason I'm still here because I really get support here and no whining kids just older guys like myself sharing ideas and help each other out. Don't worry emu I didn't forget about you ether thank you for all the stuff in the past few months and the push you gave me for getting started on my Xbox project and badsector for support.

[happy_bunny]

Sorry dude

[andre104623]

Sorry dude

You don't have to say sorry. You made the V2 so you already said sorry by fixing your mistake. Now the other 7-8 people I can't speak for them but if you want to say sorry to them what I would do is replace there faulty, flawed, oops V1's with V2's at no cost to them. Because I can throw money around and be OK because I make good money in my line of work but some of those people who bought the V1 might not be so fortunate and paid for a device that is useless and I sure those people are upset of that fact. That's what I would do if it was me save my reputation because if you think those people are going to buy anymore of your products you are very mistaken.

[happy_bunny]

Yes your are right there are six people still with a v1 will slowly send out replacements as I build batchs. Most of the stuff i do is open source so i dont really sell it.

Normally get batchs of pcbs for my stuff because i have to pay the same tooling charge for one pcb or ten so it dont make sense to buy just one.

Anyway after this i think i am going to stick to open source stuff.

Perfect example the attack board which yes great idea but completely pointless. Who is going to want a IPL replacement that requires the end-user to lift a pin something that all IPL replacement's got around also if your going to make a IPL replacement in year 2015 at least make it run swiss on flash. So it's a Ninjamod chip with even more limitations. I don't mean to blow up your spot or anything I told you already I would buy a couple of them but make them run swiss for best compatibility and ease of use.

I am not selling the whole lots up on my website schematic / pcb / vhdl I said I would give you one, as I was going to post other stuff to you. I made them for fun I wanted to see if I could make a really cheap mod chip and got ten boards made so I had some spare.

[andre104623]

Yes your are right there are six people still with a v1 will slowly send out replacements as I build batchs. Most of the stuff i do is open source so i dont really sell it.

Normally get batchs of pcbs for my stuff because i have to pay the same tooling charge for one pcb or ten so it dont make sense to buy just one.

Anyway after this i think i am going to stick to open source stuff.

Perfect example the attack board which yes great idea but completely pointless. Who is going to want a IPL replacement that requires the end-user to lift a pin something that all IPL replacement's got around also if your going to make a IPL replacement in year 2015 at least make it run swiss on flash. So it's a Ninjamod chip with even more limitations. I don't mean to blow up your spot or anything I told you already I would buy a couple of them but make them run swiss for best compatibility and ease of use.

I am not selling the whole lots up on my website schematic / pcb / vhdl I said I would give you one, as I was going to post other stuff to you. I made them for fun I wanted to see if I could make a really cheap mod chip and got ten boards made so I had some spare.

Oh I'm sorry I was under the impression that I was buying two of them and you were going to give me one video board to make a video for you. I thought you were selling a batch of attack boards at least that's what you told me. Sorry for the confusion and for the record I'm already sensing tension I'm sorry for speaking my mind this is the reason why I stay quite most of time but I was correcting you for the statement you made saying "In your eyes it was defective" which yes it was defective. I played around with the V1 for about 2-3 days total time and can firmly say that the data loss is so severe that it affects every function that its capable of. It's also the reason I haven't made anymore video's using it because I ran into problems using more complex hacks/cheats and code searching. I like your stuff and I didn't want to discouraged you so no further development could be made. Sorry

[andre104623]

I'm no longer supporting happy_bunny or his products. If you need help with his stuff ask him if your lucky maybe he could help you out I'm done

Money refunded last time I say thank you to u