Can you keep your console alive forever?

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Can you keep your console alive forever?

Post by greenmagic469 » Sat Jul 18, 2015 3:39 pm

G'day mates,

So I got to thinking today: is it possible to keep your console alive forever? Years and years from now, there's going to come a point where your GameCube (or any other console for that matter) is going to eventually die. My question is, do you think it's possible to keep it going forever? Will the boards, fans, fuses, etc, all be available/creatable forever, or are we working with resources that are no longer being produced and will eventually run out? I'd like to think that by replacing parts as needed and maintaining the casing, the console could be kept around indefinitely, but I'd like your opinion.

In short, are ALL parts of a console permanently replaceable? Or are certain parts, like the board, something that are only available during a period of manufacturing, and won't be available in the future?
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Re: Can you keep your console alive forever?

Post by Streetwalker » Sat Jul 18, 2015 8:20 pm

It's impossible. A lot of parts in consoles are proprietary and out of production (CPU and GPU are the biggest example of this).
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Post by andre104623 » Sat Jul 18, 2015 8:38 pm

Streetwalker wrote:It's impossible. A lot of parts in consoles are proprietary and out of production (CPU and GPU are the biggest example of this).
I wouldn't worry about the cube breaking anytime soon. The cube is a tank unlike the Ps3 first gen's and xbox360 first gen's which were made with lead-free solder at the CPU and GPU joints. I mean don't get me wrong though I have a 60gb ps3 with all the extras and it's still going strong but with CFW and fan mod. Every year it gets taken apart and cleaned as well as diamond paste on the CPU and GPU so I can keep it going as long as I can since it's never been YLOD.
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Re: Can you keep your console alive forever?

Post by Streetwalker » Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:00 pm

Didn't mean that the cube would die, just that for any console replacement parts are impossible to get especially after it's been discontinued. For the GameCube if you set the DVD drive aside it's unlikely that it breaks for a very long time.
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Re: Can you keep your console alive forever?

Post by Diminuendo » Sun Jul 19, 2015 1:02 pm

the capacitors and batterys will probably be the first to go in any console
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Re: Can you keep your console alive forever?

Post by Streetwalker » Sun Jul 19, 2015 3:26 pm

Batteries before caps. Even gba games have dead batteries these days.
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Re: Can you keep your console alive forever?

Post by tueidj » Sun Jul 19, 2015 10:35 pm

But it's not as if CR2032 batteries are hard to come by, they're used on practically every PC motherboard produced in the past 15 years up until today.
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Re: Can you keep your console alive forever?

Post by Diminuendo » Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:28 am

other than a few early games GBA SRAM is non-volitile, Pokemon RSE would have trouble with clock functions though
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Re: Can you keep your console alive forever?

Post by Sugurain » Sat Sep 19, 2015 2:32 am

As a collector, most of my consoles are starting to have problems related to aging.

Specially my Fz-1 3DO and my SegaCD model2 and MegaDrive model 2 (they've kept the original japanese name here in Brazil ).
Both of them are having random problems related to bad capacitors. Incredibly enough, their batteries are still going strong!
Not so long ago, coming across a laser pick-up for the Panasonic 3DOs was impossible, now you can easilly get them from China. hahah

My Dreamcast is also showing it's age...
The cooling fan, a 30mm brushless type, is getting noisier by the day.
Also, the rechargeable battery used to keep the clock going died completely. Replaced it with a CR2032 socket, and plugged a genuine ML2032 battery on it.

My original Xbox (first model), same age of the Gamecube, is known for having bad clock capacitors.
(the xbox used a capacitor instead of a battery to keep the clock)
The 2.5V 1 Farad capacitor leaks, destroying everything it touches in the motherboard. It can even cause short circuits and fires!
I replaced the ridiculous 1Farad capacitor (wich could keep the clock for about 3-4 hours max) for a monstruous 50Farad super capacitor. hahah
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The clock lasts for over a week with the console unplugged now. I also placed it away from the motherboard, that way, even if it leaks, it won't cause any harm.

Oh!
And one more thing to worry about: The controllers!
If you play a lot, you will eventually wear the analog sticks (had to replace them in my nintendo 64), and also the analog caps. (had to replace them in my gamecube)
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For my gameboy advance, snes, dreamcast, PS2 and Xbox, I've also had problems with the contact rubber pads inside the controllers.
They simply get rigid and crack after some years and under heavy use.
Luckily, China is also providing replacements for those, at least for the most known consoles.


So there's A LOT that can go wrong in a console over time.
But it's not impossible to keep it alive during YOUR life span at least. xD

China provides many replacement parts like lasers, case shells, screens, analogs, and rubber pads.
3D printing is also a reality now, so it's possible to print some falty mechanism at home, in case it fails.
Capacitors and batteries are easy to find, and you can even replace the factory capacitors and batteries for better ones. (I'm currently doing that for my SegaCD and 3DO, replacing the bad capacitors for solid long-life japanese ones)

I may have forgotten something, but now you have an idea of what can and WILL go wrong with your Gamecube after it reaches it's 20s. ;)
Don't worry about CPU, GPU, RAM problems though, those are very, VERY unlikely to fail. (we still have Ataris running afterall, so have faith! hahah)
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Re: Can you keep your console alive forever?

Post by tueidj » Sat Sep 19, 2015 2:41 am

Nintendo is still making/selling brand new gamecube controllers.
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Re: Can you keep your console alive forever?

Post by Sugurain » Sat Sep 19, 2015 7:01 pm

Buying new controllers because they wear out is like buying a new car because the tires are worn. hahah

Sure, you can do that if you want and can afford that, it's your money afterall. xP

But maintenace on controllers is the cheapest, and usually extremely easy to do, so it's worth a try before throwing that otherwise great working controller in the trash.
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Re: Can you keep your console alive forever?

Post by tueidj » Sun Sep 20, 2015 2:57 am

If a new car cost the same as two tires of course I'd replace it.
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Re: Can you keep your console alive forever?

Post by Papy.G » Fri Oct 04, 2019 4:20 pm

Sorry to bump a very old thread, but I would love Nintendo to sell spare parts kits to keep their consoles at best, some chinese ones are pure crap!
I had to repair six DS'ses, three fat, and three Lites, and the result is not as good as I would expect, especially for those of the fats where the original buttons and rubber were "lost".
I have a pair of controllers where the stick caps have suffered much from abuse, and would love to get something to get them "back to life", but when I see my kid ripping the stick's rubber off the chinese knock-off controllers after less than 50 hours of gameplay, I'm afraid to get the same "quality" and lifespan with spare parts probably going from the same factory.
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