Wii DVD/Wiikey Fusion/WODE + GC Portable Discussion

Ashen · Post by **Ashen** » Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:10 am

O.K.... So, I've gotten the "crazy taxi bootloader" to load twice more after much messing around. It seems to be just a timing thing, like I need to plug the sun in at the exact moment its expecting something. Both times it loaded the bootloader this time I can confirm that it did not hang. I was able to hit the "a" button and the console would reboot at which point the sun would not load the game again. Also even though the HDD has some GC games on it they do not display in the bootloader.

The other odd thing is that in the PC programmer I have the sun set to "boot from PC selection" I have the region set to USA and in the other little options box I have "region lock" checked. Its a bit odd that no matter what game on the HDD I set it to boot from the programmer tool it loads the bootloader. Wish I had one of those little nero programmer USB things so I could upgrade this things firmware. It may behave differently if it were upgraded.

YouTube · Post by **emu_kidid** » Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:22 am

It's probably just using timing to catch the commands on the Wii like when to reset/etc. going to try a wode asap:)

Ashen · Post by **Ashen** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:44 pm

Anyone who is planning on doing this mod please post your drive info here and I will try to keep a list updated somewhere... just in case we run into any incompatible chipsets/drive revisions. I don't think we should run into trouble but you never know. Drive identification can be done here: http://www.wiidrives.com/list thx SS. Also if you have any GC/Wii modchips to try that are confirmed working with your drive model please try them. So far my Viper Extreme (GC modchip) and D2lite (Wii modchip) have been incompatible running backups. Thx.

Legion · Post by **Legion** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:21 pm

Iv been researching the very same thing!
And have been following the different the “Handheld” GameCube projects for some time now.
But I would love to see an actual “Portable” GameCube so that I could play Zelda or the Resident Evil Remake on the tube!

This seem to be the best example of a handled GameCube so far.
But it’s not potable!
http://forums.benheck.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=36826

Like you said we need to lose the DVD Drive!

So far iv found this;
The SunDrive
Lets you run ISO games off a Laptop size harddrive
http://www.modchipstore.com/sundriver-16485.html

And the WiiKey Fusion mod Chip look promising!
http://www.modchipstore.com/Wiikey-Fusi ... 16480.html

It says and I quote,“Wiikey Fusion is a total DVD drive emulator. In fact, you can actually take your DVD drive out if you want, and just load games from the SD card.”
The only problem is this is designed for the Wii so not sure if they are compatible with the gamecube.

Also according to this Cobra Bois that works with the Viper GC mod chip.
support Loading ISOs from Media but does not say much about what kinds of mass storage its supports.
http://www.modchipstore.com/Wiikey-Fusi ... 16480.html

Ashen · Post by **Ashen** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:12 pm

I dont even know what to say...

Ashen · Post by **Ashen** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:02 am

Weeeee......

I have faith that it still works... If so the really tricky part is going to be the cut along (roughly) that red line and reattaching everything there. Fun!

YouTube · Post by **emu_kidid** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:30 am

wow, awesome. where will you wire up the GC DVD pins? P.S. there's a HEAP of stuff after/on that red line! I know cause I've had to repair some Gamecube that had a trace or two cut there :\

Ashen · Post by **Ashen** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:37 am

I think I may wait on any more board cutting till I know what exactly is going in it.

YouTube · Post by **emu_kidid** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:44 am

loving it - thanks for sharing this on the forum

YouTube · Post by **emu_kidid** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:49 am

It's going to be a late night tonight - have a look at what arrived!

P.S. maybe we can get bulk and I'll sell them in the webshop

Tchay · Post by **Tchay** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 7:10 am

Ashen wrote: I have faith that it still works... If so the really tricky part is going to be the cut along (roughly) that red line and reattaching everything there. Fun!

Wire up the power pins and test it

It should work. Most of that stuff around the controller board area is useless

I just rip off all of the capacitors usually. BUT make sure its a CPU - 20.

Oh, and you can cut more on the left side, FYI. You could cut out those power pins entirely and wire the voltage directly to their hidden layers.

Is your goal to fit it inside a DS case?

EDIT: thats NOT a CPU - 20 board. You cannot remove the silver caps or else you will get a memory card error. Essentially, you cannot cut off any more of the controller board area of that board. Sorry.

Legion · Post by **Legion** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 10:01 am

Sorry in my excitement at finding this yesterday I posted before id reading the whole thing.
Obviously after reading it all I see you are already aware of the sundrive and have already done a lot of testing on it.

But I hope the information on the “WiiKey Fusion mod chip” and its DVD emulation capability is useful to you.
http://www.modchipstore.com/Wiikey-Fusi ... 16480.html

Also found today someone else that done some similar work on DVD Emulation for the gamecube.
http://forums.nintendo-scene.com/index.php?topic=1322.0

You guys have done some amazing stuff here way beyond my technical comprehension.
How close do you think you are to a working potable Gamecube prototype?
Also if can get it to work with some kind of flash media to store the game images how small do you think you can get it?

gtmtnbiker · Post by **gtmtnbiker** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 11:52 am

Ashen wrote:Weeeee......

What board is that a picture of? I don't recognize it. Is that the Gamecube main board?

YouTube · Post by **emu_kidid** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:14 pm

Yes, a cut down GC mainboard, missing the two EXI ports and the DVD port.

LOCtronicz · Post by **LOCtronicz** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:05 pm

Cut board looks sweet. I have cut up many gamecube board before and know that cutting up the controller side is a very finicky thing to do.

Please prove me wrong and cut it so small that it would fit inside that ds lite

If that new modchip would also allow sd card loading without a discdrive attached..... That would just be insane!!!

Wonder when that chip is coming out though and how good the iso loading support is for it. Even if it's gonna work on a gamecube.

Post by **liquitt** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:19 pm

what new modchip?

Legion · Post by **Legion** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:31 pm

Do you mean this: Wiikey Fusion Mod Chip?
http://www.modchipstore.com/Wiikey-Fusi ... 16480.html

It is out and cost $50??

yamaharacer · Post by **yamaharacer** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:39 pm

i think he means this project as new modchip.

Legion · Post by **Legion** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:00 pm

That would be amazing if you could get it anywhere near the size of the DS.
Maybe just borrow the front using its screen and some of its buttons?

I loved the feel and shape of the first Gameboy Advanced and the Micro.
But was ready disappointed with the DS.
I wanted it to be a next Gen Gameboy like the PSP put play Gamecube style games!

But if you guys could pull this off it would like you made the next Gen Gameboy id always hoped for!
Maybe your all get jobs working for Nintendo making the next official version

Post by **liquitt** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:16 pm

Legion wrote:That would be amazing if you could get it anywhere near the size of the DS.
Maybe just borrow the front using its screen and some of its buttons?

I loved the feel and shape of the first Gameboy Advanced and the Micro.
But was ready disappointed with the DS.
I wanted it to be a next Gen Gameboy like the PSP put play Gamecube style games!

But if you guys could pull this off it would like you made the next Gen Gameboy id always hoped for!
Maybe your all get jobs working for Nintendo making the next official version

what the hell? are you sure you know what this project is about?!?

Ashen · Post by **Ashen** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:20 pm

emu_kidid wrote:loving it - thanks for sharing this on the forum

The topic is "building a portable gamecube". My worklog will stay here

emu_kidid wrote:It's going to be a late night tonight - have a look at what arrived!

P.S. maybe we can get bulk and I'll sell them in the webshop

That is so freakin awesome man. I cant wait to see if the WODE gives different results than the sundriver. If by chance you have a Wii DD laying around would you mind testing that also and report results with DD ID. Getting a bulk order and selling them on the GC-Forever shop would make life easier for anyone who wants to do this for sure. Thx emu!

Edit: Also, by the time we finish with all this testing I may have about a dozen or so Wii/GC modchips for you to put on the webstore... lol

Tchay wrote:Wire up the power pins and test it
It should work. Most of that stuff around the controller board area is useless
I just rip off all of the capacitors usually. BUT make sure its a CPU - 20.
Oh, and you can cut more on the left side, FYI. You could cut out those power pins entirely and wire the voltage directly to their hidden layers.
Is your goal to fit it inside a DS case?

I'm being conservative for now. This is my first board cut so I don't expect things to go 100% smooth. If when I wire it up it still works I'll trim a bit more... Maybe. The DS was just put there for a easy size comparison. From what you say though, with the right MB you could potentially fit a GC mobo in a DS. Now that would be epic.

zenloc wrote:Cut board looks sweet. I have cut up many gamecube board before and know that cutting up the controller side is a very finicky thing to do.
Please prove me wrong and cut it so small that it would fit inside that ds lite
If that new modchip would also allow sd card loading without a discdrive attached..... That would just be insane!!!
Wonder when that chip is coming out though and how good the iso loading support is for it. Even if it's gonna work on a gamecube.

Thx zen! Lets hope the WODE or the wiikey fusion provides us with DD'less loading. They are our last options for it now.

LOCtronicz · Post by **LOCtronicz** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:05 pm

oops made a little mistake... Thought the wiikey fusion wasn't out yet... But it is

Gonna order one right now! See if it works on the gamecube.

Also connected my usa wii drive same model as Ashen to my usa gamecube and it indeed works!

Altough I didn't use the slide mechanism. I has a slimed downed drive with a normal switch for the eject button.

I'll take some pics whenever I get some time.

Ashen · Post by **Ashen** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:02 pm

Thats great Zen! love to see some pics

I've contacted the Wiikey guys to see if they will provide any insight as to whether or not the Wiikey fusion may work hooked up to the GC. I don't really want to waste anymore money until we know something works. I already have 4 sundrivers sitting here and when I contacted the sun team they weren't much help at all.

LOCtronicz · Post by **LOCtronicz** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:18 pm

I have a few bucks to burn. I ordered a wiikey fusion and a standard wii sun drive modchip. I wonder if the chip will work when using the wiidrive to play backups.

We will just have to see when I get everything in. I'll post any usefull info here when I have it.

Thanks emu_kidd and ashen for burning up the gamecube scene!!

Ashen · Post by **Ashen** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:32 pm

Zen and tchay, few question about board cutting:

1. The 4 separate layers of the board are much closer together than I expected... Do I need to worry at all after cutting about the layers "bridging" together? I went all around the perimeter of the cut area with sandpaper as much as I could but I'm still worried.

2. Can I solder directly to the via's without modification? Or do I have to sand the board down first around the via's I want to solder to?

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