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Black and white video
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:08 pm
by Seniorcelica
I installed a xenogc properly has orange led on power up. Had to do a pot tweak. My originals play properly with full color. My backup plays in black and white. I also have a region switch installed which made no difference. Thanks in advance
Re: Black and white video
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:49 pm
by boredomca
Sounds like your region switch is wired either wrong or shorting.
The switch is unnecessary with a XENO anyways as it makes the GC region free.
I recommend removing the region switch and retesting.
Re: Black and white video
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 7:30 pm
by Extrems
Are your "backups" from the PAL region?
Re: Black and white video
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 8:38 pm
by boredomca
Hold B while booting in that case. Most people say hold X/Y to force region although best results from holding B and forcing 60hz.
Re: Black and white video
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:06 pm
by Seniorcelica
so i have 2 gc one has the region mod switch and the other doesnt. so tried 3 different tv, worked only on one perfectly didnt matter what the region was set at. the other gc still only will boot non backups in color but backups are black and white
Re: Black and white video
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:06 pm
by boredomca
Did you try forcing 60hz?
Re: Black and white video
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:07 pm
by Seniorcelica
Yes. Does it matter that I'm using a wave bird
Re: Black and white video
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:15 pm
by boredomca
Shouldn't. Have you tried to boot up while holding X/Y?
Re: Black and white video
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:25 pm
by Seniorcelica
Yes
Re: Black and white video
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:27 pm
by boredomca
Maybe your wavebird lag is a problem at boot. Try a different controller
Re: Black and white video
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:33 pm
by boredomca
Re: Black and white video
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:10 am
by novenary
boredomca wrote:Maybe your wavebird lag is a problem at boot. Try a different controller
This is not a thing.
Re: Black and white video
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:19 am
by boredomca
Can't rule out the slight possibility. All wireless have lag, it's impossible not to, plus batteries could be low, dirty pins, stray solder bead causing miniscule disruption, ect..
Plausible, probable, anything is possible.
Re: Black and white video
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:25 am
by boredomca
Re: Black and white video
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:06 am
by novenary
boredomca wrote:Can't rule out the slight possibility. All wireless have lag, it's impossible not to, plus batteries could be low, dirty pins, stray solder bead causing miniscule disruption, ect..
Plausible, probable, anything is possible.
You have about 15 seconds during bootup to hold your buttons (the whole duration of the startup animation until it fades to black).
Re: Black and white video
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 11:55 am
by Seniorcelica
i think i just had the bad luck of the 1st 2 backups were on the list, i burnt another back up and its fine.
Re: Black and white video
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:59 pm
by boredomca
Streetwalker wrote:boredomca wrote:Can't rule out the slight possibility. All wireless have lag, it's impossible not to, plus batteries could be low, dirty pins, stray solder bead causing miniscule disruption, ect..
Plausible, probable, anything is possible.
You have about 15 seconds during bootup to hold your buttons (the whole duration of the startup animation until it fades to black).
I have not had this luck. Wonder if something's wrong with my test cube now.
Re: Black and white video
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:06 pm
by novenary
I don't have a xeno hooked up anymore, but the apploader (which is where the xeno does its magic) is executed once the GC is actually able to read from the disc, and when you have a backup inserted, that takes a while as it has to spin up twice.
Re: Black and white video
Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 4:35 pm
by theclaw
boredomca wrote:Sounds like your region switch is wired either wrong or shorting.
The switch is unnecessary with a XENO anyways as it makes the GC region free.
I recommend removing the region switch and retesting.
One caveat is Xeno doesn't switch system language. Swiss settings can help the fussy games, or of course put the chip in a Japanese GC if need be.
Yep I've talked about that quite a bit. Not often witnessed, but it is an inherent technical issue.
50hz from NTSC consoles messes up composite and s-video color.
Re: Black and white video
Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 4:39 pm
by novenary
50 Hz on the NTSC AVE will result in PAL-N colors which need an appropriate decoder.
Re: Black and white video
Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 5:05 pm
by theclaw
Streetwalker wrote:50 Hz on the NTSC AVE will result in PAL-N colors which need an appropriate decoder.
Does that mean you have a lead on finding what I doggedly asked for?
https://www.gc-forever.com/forums/viewt ... 56&p=38193
Re: Black and white video
Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 5:24 pm
by novenary
No you can't do that, it's not worth it at all when you can just get a PAL unit or use GCvideo. The easiest you can do is get a PAL-N TV. Why you would want to run games in 50 Hz in the first place is beyond me.
Re: Black and white video
Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 5:43 pm
by Seniorcelica
Just installed a gcvideo Pluto and got color but then it goes to a black screen with audio.
Re: Black and white video
Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 8:49 am
by theclaw
Streetwalker wrote:No you can't do that, it's not worth it at all when you can just get a PAL unit or use GCvideo. The easiest you can do is get a PAL-N TV. Why you would want to run games in 50 Hz in the first place is beyond me.
Well you made it sound like a PAL-N to PAL decoder exists. But that's way off topic.
Seniorcelica wrote:Just installed a gcvideo Pluto and got color but then it goes to a black screen with audio.
Does (past tense if a DOL-001 with removed port) a component cable work correctly on your system? gcvideo uses the gamecube's digital AV lines.
Re: Black and white video
Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:18 am
by Seniorcelica
yes removed port most other games work very well great picture but animal crossing and mansion show nintendo logo ask if i want pro scan then go black and just hear audio. the gcvideo is installed properly